World Premiere of All-New Toyota GR 86 (Europe)

[Dzmitry]

Originally Posted by beltax90

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Haha, neat.

[boy_racer]

Has anyone seen estimated C02 anywhere?Maybe from japanese versions that are already available in japan?

[boy_racer]

Spotted in Spain,we may see some movement from Toyota soon!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUj_lsXo...dium=copy_link

[nikitopo]

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[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by jortegaa3289

I just love this car in red color and the bumper design, Interior is average but overall the car is awesome.

Bright colors really make the black accents stand out, especially the fender vents.

I would normally say white is so boring because every crossover you see is white, but it really looks good on the GR86. The red is sharp too.

[boy_racer]

Here is the only mention on C02 i have found on the internet!

GR86 6AT japan specs comes at 198gr/km

[nikitopo]

AT had always a better value. I wouldn't be surprised if MT has > 200gr/km

[alex87f]

Originally Posted by boy_racer

Spotted in Spain,we may see some movement from Toyota soon!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUj_lsXo...dium=copy_link

They might just be looking for press shots for RoW markets though ;-)

Originally Posted by boy_racer

Here is the only mention on C02 i have found on the internet!

GR86 6AT japan specs comes at 198gr/km

Well being that Japan also uses WLTP, that makes it the likely figure for Europe. Which translates into a 16 800€ CO2 tax in France

Originally Posted by nikitopo

AT had always a better value. I wouldn't be surprised if MT has > 200gr/km

Not necessarily, the last WLTP GT86s had lower CO2 as manuals (191 vs. 193)

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by alex87f

Well being that Japan also uses WLTP, that makes it the likely figure for Europe. Which translates into a 16 800€ CO2 tax in France

My car is registered with 159gr/km and it is a 6+ years old car. Everyone goes lower and Subaru goes higher.

[boy_racer]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

AT had always a better value. I wouldn't be surprised if MT has > 200gr/km

My best bet it will be around 210gr/km

Originally Posted by alex87f

They might just be looking for press shots for RoW markets though ;-)



Well being that Japan also uses WLTP, that makes it the likely figure for Europe. Which translates into a 16 800€ CO2 tax in France




Not necessarily, the last WLTP GT86s had lower CO2 as manuals (191 vs. 193)

That is a BIG big tax for France

I thought first gen wltp was 196 for manual and 183 for Auto.

[alex87f]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

My car is registered with 159gr/km and it is a 6+ years old car. Everyone goes lower and Subaru goes higher.

It's an auto then?

Nevertheless, the switch from the NEDC testing procedure to WLTP caused CO2 values to increase by about 25% across the board. That'll be your main culprit.

Mine's a 2013 manual and is registered @181gr/km (I think).

Originally Posted by boy_racer

My best bet it will be around 210gr/km

That is a BIG big tax for France

I thought first gen wltp was 196 for manual and 183 for Auto.

Those were the "intermediary" WLTP-correlated NEDC values, which were a sort of anticipation of the WLTP results that was used on European cars for a year or so. The final WLTP values were 191gr/km for the manual and 193 for the auto, see the below which is out of Subaru France's website :

[timurrrr]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

My car is registered with 159gr/km and it is a 6+ years old car. Everyone goes lower and Subaru goes higher.

With great power comes great

[boy_racer]

[boy_racer]

Saw it on another forum ,Essen Germany 02/12/2021