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localhost · 09-09-2021, 06:19 PM

Some dyno numbers for you guys:

2015 FRS with the medium (one smaller than stock) pulley, Aquamist water-meth injection, catless heat wrapped UEL headers. Stock block, stock fuel system (injectors, fuel pump) and stock clutch:

According to my tuner, the reason they couldn't go any higher was because of IATs. They did run the pulley that was even smaller than the medium one, but apparently IATs were too high to get more power even with more boost.

Truthfully, I'm a little disappointed, but Dyno Dynamics dynos read lower than most other dynos anyway so it's okay I guess. The stock cars on these dynos read about 150whp, so this is a pretty healthy 137hp bump. Really wish there was more torque though. I'm not really sure how to get much more power out of this at this point though.

FrickingReallySlow · 09-09-2021, 07:10 PM

theoretically Edelbrock only needs to make new runners to match the FA24 ports. So maybe they'll make a cheaper retrofit upgrade kit. Or maybe we'll get really lucky and just need to chamfer the runners at a machine shop

FrickingReallySlow · 09-09-2021, 09:00 PM

You should be pretty lean at WOT and with WMI keeping things cool the measured IAT (MAF) is before the injector no? so how would they know the mixture is too hot? The stock block doesn't handle anything above 280BHP very well so its probably for the best.

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Originally Posted by localhost

Some dyno numbers for you guys:

According to my tuner, the reason they couldn't go any higher was because of IATs. They did run the pulley that was even smaller than the medium one, but apparently IATs were too high to get more power even with more boost.

dpfarr · 09-10-2021, 03:13 AM

Is there a good picture of an EBSC w a flex fuel sensor?

B T · 09-10-2021, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dpfarr

Is there a good picture of an EBSC w a flex fuel sensor?

This work for ya?
Edelbrock with Flex Fuel

dpfarr · 09-10-2021, 11:51 AM

I thought there was only one way. Thanks man. Excited to get my stupid car out of the garage and on the dyno.

localhost · 09-10-2021, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrickingReallySlow

You should be pretty lean at WOT and with WMI keeping things cool the measured IAT (MAF) is before the injector no? so how would they know the mixture is too hot? The stock block doesn't handle anything above 280BHP very well so its probably for the best.

They way the hooked up the WMI injector is directly into the body of the SC, right before the rotor pack. So yes, after the MAF so I'm not super sure how they'd know the IATs were the problem.

At this point I'm going back and forth on doing an LS swap come next summer, or just jumping to a different platform that can handle some decent power (Golf R is the top contender) and keeping the FRS around for weekend/fun shenanigans. LS swapping and getting a new-to-me car would both run roughly about the same price too.

FrickingReallySlow · 09-10-2021, 02:28 PM

Thats pretty cool, can you show us some pics of your injectors

I always wanted another use for my giant windshield washer fluid and reservoir. Yeah this platform aint that great for anything big power wise but check out the K24 swap threads they got me itching to buy some 86 rod knocked shells

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Originally Posted by localhost

They way the hooked up the WMI injector is directly into the body of the SC, right before the rotor pack. So yes, after the MAF so I'm not super sure how they'd know the IATs were the problem.

B T · 09-10-2021, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FrickingReallySlow

Yeah this platform aint that great for anything big power wise but check out the K24 swap threads they got me itching to buy some 86 rod knocked shells

I second this. I'd get to work on it now just for the weight savings but my son is using my truck and currently selling my other sports car, but def doing a k24 in the future.

localhost · 09-10-2021, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrickingReallySlow

Thats pretty cool, can you show us some pics of your injectors

I always wanted another use for my giant windshield washer fluid and reservoir. Yeah this platform aint that great for anything big power wise but check out the K24 swap threads they got me itching to buy some 86 rod knocked shells

It's just a single injector.

dpfarr · 09-11-2021, 06:54 PM

Got the engine bay stuff done. Need to swap the fuel pump and button up the bumper.

If anyone has encouragement for the fuel pump, I thank you now. Additionally, the propensity for fuel leaks (injectors, lines, fuel rail, etc.) is low right!?

brandonblt2 · 09-12-2021, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpfarr

Got the engine bay stuff done. Need to swap the fuel pump and button up the bumper.

If anyone has encouragement for the fuel pump, I thank you now. Additionally, the propensity for fuel leaks (injectors, lines, fuel rail, etc.) is low right!?

Just make sure you line up the markings on the fuel pump lid. And make sure the gaskets are installed in the fuel injectors. I had a gasket missing on one of my injectors and it throw gasoline all over my engine bay. My whole house smelled like gas for the rest of the day

Aztec · 09-13-2021, 01:03 AM

How does everyone's car sound once warmed up and idling?

I am getting an odd sound that seems out of place. My idle is around 900rpm
video for reference: https://photos.app.goo.gl/wCJwbXMPAy9Rhikj6
Thanks!

CSG Mike · 09-13-2021, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by localhost

Some dyno numbers for you guys:

2015 FRS with the medium (one smaller than stock) pulley, Aquamist water-meth injection, catless heat wrapped UEL headers. Stock block, stock fuel system (injectors, fuel pump) and stock clutch:

According to my tuner, the reason they couldn't go any higher was because of IATs. They did run the pulley that was even smaller than the medium one, but apparently IATs were too high to get more power even with more boost.

Truthfully, I'm a little disappointed, but Dyno Dynamics dynos read lower than most other dynos anyway so it's okay I guess. The stock cars on these dynos read about 150whp, so this is a pretty healthy 137hp bump. Really wish there was more torque though. I'm not really sure how to get much more power out of this at this point though.

Better fuel will be your answer.

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localhost Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Drives: Edelbrock SC 2015 FR-S 6MT Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 67 Thanks: 18 Thanked 25 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Some dyno numbers for you guys: 2015 FRS with the medium (one smaller than stock) pulley, Aquamist water-meth injection, catless heat wrapped UEL headers. Stock block, stock fuel system (injectors, fuel pump) and stock clutch: According to my tuner, the reason they couldn't go any higher was because of IATs. They did run the pulley that was even smaller than the medium one, but apparently IATs were too high to get more power even with more boost. Truthfully, I'm a little disappointed, but Dyno Dynamics dynos read lower than most other dynos anyway so it's okay I guess. The stock cars on these dynos read about 150whp, so this is a pretty healthy 137hp bump. Really wish there was more torque though. I'm not really sure how to get much more power out of this at this point though.

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FrickingReallySlow Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Drives: 2015 FR-S Location: San francisco Posts: 367 Thanks: 160 Thanked 157 Times in 103 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	theoretically Edelbrock only needs to make new runners to match the FA24 ports. So maybe they'll make a cheaper retrofit upgrade kit. Or maybe we'll get really lucky and just need to chamfer the runners at a machine shop

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dpfarr Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Drives: BRZ ts Location: SACRAMENTO Posts: 767 Thanks: 424 Thanked 800 Times in 305 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I thought there was only one way. Thanks man. Excited to get my stupid car out of the garage and on the dyno.

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dpfarr Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Drives: BRZ ts Location: SACRAMENTO Posts: 767 Thanks: 424 Thanked 800 Times in 305 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Got the engine bay stuff done. Need to swap the fuel pump and button up the bumper. If anyone has encouragement for the fuel pump, I thank you now. Additionally, the propensity for fuel leaks (injectors, lines, fuel rail, etc.) is low right!?

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