Pricing released and orders open!

[shiumai]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Wanted to work on faster vehicles.

Can you narrow it down a bit? That includes just about everything else out there...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by shiumai

Can you narrow it down a bit? That includes just about everything else out there...

That was the joke!

[dragoontwo]

Originally Posted by psychore0

Vortex generator but no diffuser option?

That's an STI part.

[EAGLE5]

Oh, he's building the next V6 Accord?

I'm definitely seeing the advantages of the new over the old, but I'm not seeing them as compelling advantages.

[Yoshoobaroo]

I thought it was widely known that Tada was busy with the supra development.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

I thought it was widely known that Tada was busy with the supra development.

He was done that task years ago now. Pretty sure that ichi said he is mostly retired now.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by joro2

Where was original chief engineer Tada-san during the development of Gen 2? Doesn’t seem to have been at all involved?

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I believe he had moved on to other projects by that point.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

According to @ichitaka05 none of the original Toyota team was involved.

Correct, Tada-san wasn't involved & none of 1st gen engineers are involved in new 86/BRZ (they're retired, quit/fired, or moved to different projects). Technically, new gen spearhead is Subaru team. Of course Toyota/GR engineers are there, but a lot of things are decided by Subaru.

[dragoontwo]

So, package 2 is: all weather floor liners, cargo tray, led dome light, footwell illumination, rear bumper applique and auto dimming mirror with homelink.

I was at the dealer today and had him bring the list back up, and most everything in the packages was able to be selected individually, and they failed to let me see it the first time.

The rear diffuser will be available here.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Correct, Tada-san wasn't involved & none of 1st gen engineers are involved in new 86/BRZ (they're retired, quit/fired, or moved to different projects). Technically, new gen spearhead is Subaru team. Of course Toyota/GR engineers are there, but a lot of things are decided by Subaru.

I’m okay with that, I think Subaru had the better setup on the 1st Gen car as well.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

$27,995 for base 6mt, base auto with Eyesight is $29,995.

Limited 6mt is $30,495, auto is $32,295.

Limited adds upgraded audio, 18" wheels with Pilot Sport 4 tires, Ultrasuede seats, heated seats and side mirrors, steering responsive headlights, blind spot detection, and available Starlink telematics.

8" headunit and dual zone climate control are standard!

Orders open today!

The "At a glance" PDF linked somewhere else doesn't mention upgraded audio?

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

The "At a glance" PDF linked somewhere else doesn't mention upgraded audio?

Hmm, yeah it's not in the press release but it's definitely mentioned in the pricing announcement sent to dealers. Just double checked there. Fingers crossed!

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Hmm, yeah it's not in the press release but it's definitely mentioned in the pricing announcement sent to dealers. Just double checked there. Fingers crossed!

I hope so. That was one of the complaints about my '15 BRZ Limited was the terrible stereo.

[trippinbillies40]

Also, full list of accessories both port and dealer installed is now available to Subaru retailers along with MSRP. So they should be able to help you out with an order.

[Dzmitry]

Not that it matters to me (I prefer MT), but I see they went to a 3.9 final drive for the auto now. The gear ratios match the previous auto, which were already longer than the manual, and now the final drive is longer too. Easily explains why auto still falls behind the manual a decent bit on top of the added weight. But also pretty impressive. I recall several folks complaining about the auto being slow for modern times, but this should explain why.

Many auto Gen1 owners that wanted improved acceleration bumped up to a 4.3, 4.56, or even higher for quite a noticeable acceleration improvement. This will be even more noticeable now coming from a 3.9 and having a greatly improved torque curve. Shouldn't be much to complain about for the auto-choosers this time around. Or for those that keep it stock, it will probably get somewhat similar MPG's to current gen, which is also nice.