STX setup sharing thread (2021) - Page 22 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Locust · 07-22-2021, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by racingfool

What conditions/surface do BFGs like?

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Originally Posted by steverife

In a different car (ES MR2 Spyder) a few years back, I tested Bridgestones vs BFGs at Lincoln and a low grip local sealed asphalt site. Bracketed ABA testing, both tires in prime condition (sticker BFG's and about 20 runs on Bridgestones) and took enough runs that consistency wasn't an issue. Basically ran the same times on both tires at both sites. I liked the car a lot more on the BFG's and they paid better contingency, so that is the route I took.

Neither tire can hold a candle to the Yoks.

Pretty much what he's saying but the heat tolerance on BFGs is significantly better. Especially if you are dual driving. Between the Bridgestones and BFGs you will likely never overheat your BFGs with a co-driver but with Bridgestones you can. The BFGs also recover better if you exceed your maximum cornering grip. They're more sluggish on turn-in (they are wider ever so slightly too) but offer better feedback to the driver in sweepers.

3k1n · 07-24-2021, 06:10 PM

Curious about this, for the guys that are running -4 degrees of negative camber or more that do occasionally take their cars to the track. Has that much negative camber, negatively impacted braking performance ?

M0nk3y · 07-26-2021, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 3k1n

Curious about this, for the guys that are running -4 degrees of negative camber or more that do occasionally take their cars to the track. Has that much negative camber, negatively impacted braking performance ?

I'm at -4.2 of camber. No issues on track

Goingnowherefast · 07-27-2021, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 3k1n

Curious about this, for the guys that are running -4 degrees of negative camber or more that do occasionally take their cars to the track. Has that much negative camber, negatively impacted braking performance ?

I'm at -4 degrees. In the bit of data I've looked at there's no noticeable braking distance difference between my current -4 and last years -3.2 degrees.

ka-t_240 · 08-04-2021, 12:31 AM

For those with ao52, has anyone flipped them on rims? I am used to doing this on many other tires, but haven't seen anything mentioned about this on the ao52.

Molez93 · 08-04-2021, 01:41 PM

My Yokohamas are wearing evenly.... amazingly so really. Haven't considered flipping because there's nothing to address on mine ~50% in.

Breezio · 08-04-2021, 01:51 PM

The amount of camber you should be running for an STX build will yield pretty even wear for A052s. My last set wore even all the way to nearly bald at ~130 runs.

steverife · 08-04-2021, 02:22 PM

Same. My first set is around 160 runs. Flipping never crossed my mind.

Locust · 08-04-2021, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ka-t_240

For those with ao52, has anyone flipped them on rims? I am used to doing this on many other tires, but haven't seen anything mentioned about this on the ao52.

I flipped a set last year and there was no noticeable change in performance one way or the other. Not going to bother flipping them ever again.

Roadphantom · 08-05-2021, 12:46 PM

Did anyone take tire temperatures readings of the Inner-Mid-Outer edges of the A052? What camber and psi do you run them at?

Kelse92 · 08-09-2021, 12:06 PM

In case anyone wanted some data on Nankangs, mine have 66 2-driver hot summer runs with all but 10 of those on concrete and they're looking pretty done for.
I'm going to try and squeeze another 10 runs out of them next week, but useful quality runs out of them were gone by about run 55 I think.
Served their purpose as a good-stop gap to save the Yoko's for nats but I think Falkens will be my answer for local events the rest of the year.

steverife · 08-09-2021, 12:34 PM

Breezio · 08-10-2021, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelse92

In case anyone wanted some data on Nankangs, mine have 66 2-driver hot summer runs with all but 10 of those on concrete and they're looking pretty done for.
I'm going to try and squeeze another 10 runs out of them next week, but useful quality runs out of them were gone by about run 55 I think.
Served their purpose as a good-stop gap to save the Yoko's for nats but I think Falkens will be my answer for local events the rest of the year.

lack of tread? heat cycled? what exactly is the problem.

I'm 52 runs on my Nankangs and they are performing fantastic. Still have tons of tread left.

Kelse92 · 08-10-2021, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Breezio

lack of tread? heat cycled? what exactly is the problem.

I'm 52 runs on my Nankangs and they are performing fantastic. Still have tons of tread left.

Lack of tread. They could handle a few more heat cycles but they're looking pretty close to slicks at this point.

08-04-2021, 01:41 PM	#300
Molez93 Scott M Join Date: Jul 2018 Drives: '13 BRZ (DocWalt's old car) Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 86 Thanks: 20 Thanked 35 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My Yokohamas are wearing evenly.... amazingly so really. Haven't considered flipping because there's nothing to address on mine ~50% in. __________________ 13 BRZ (DSTprep) 14 Lotus Evora S; 08 Exige S240 06 BMW Z4M Roadster, 20 M850

08-05-2021, 12:46 PM	#304
Roadphantom Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: FR-S - STX Location: Canada Posts: 32 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Did anyone take tire temperatures readings of the Inner-Mid-Outer edges of the A052? What camber and psi do you run them at? Last edited by Roadphantom; 08-05-2021 at 04:41 PM.

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3k1n Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Drives: 2017 BRZ limited PP WRC Blue Location: Massachusetts Posts: 46 Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Curious about this, for the guys that are running -4 degrees of negative camber or more that do occasionally take their cars to the track. Has that much negative camber, negatively impacted braking performance ?

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ka-t_240 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: BRZ Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 973 Thanks: 124 Thanked 328 Times in 237 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For those with ao52, has anyone flipped them on rims? I am used to doing this on many other tires, but haven't seen anything mentioned about this on the ao52.

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Breezio Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Drives: 2017 BRZ series.yellow Location: Idaho Posts: 253 Thanks: 132 Thanked 189 Times in 109 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The amount of camber you should be running for an STX build will yield pretty even wear for A052s. My last set wore even all the way to nearly bald at ~130 runs.

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steverife Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 478 Thanks: 62 Thanked 291 Times in 192 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Same. My first set is around 160 runs. Flipping never crossed my mind.

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Kelse92 At the track Join Date: Feb 2021 Drives: '14 FRS - Former e92 M3 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 193 Thanks: 239 Thanked 210 Times in 100 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	In case anyone wanted some data on Nankangs, mine have 66 2-driver hot summer runs with all but 10 of those on concrete and they're looking pretty done for. I'm going to try and squeeze another 10 runs out of them next week, but useful quality runs out of them were gone by about run 55 I think. Served their purpose as a good-stop gap to save the Yoko's for nats but I think Falkens will be my answer for local events the rest of the year.

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