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Ernest72 · 06-26-2021, 04:45 PM

Sister works for Merc, years ago she came home with 4500lb Sclass AMG with 495 hp. It was a tank with insane power. So much fun. So 400hp on a lighter car will feel great. Actually the best car she brought home was an e class convertible with glass pack mufflers. Close your eyes and you were in a 60s muscle car. My dad and I had lots of fun with that car. HP did not matter, the sound was intoxicating. My dad thought he was in his 56 Chevy.

blsfrs · 06-26-2021, 09:23 PM

I've had my FRS for about 3 years. When I first took it to the track, I felt it was under powered. The more I took it to the track, I realized it wasn't speed on the straights that was fun, it was how the car went through the turns. The more I learn about driving the more I like my under powered car.

Capt Spaulding · 06-27-2021, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blsfrs

I've had my FRS for about 3 years. When I first took it to the track, I felt it was under powered. The more I took it to the track, I realized it wasn't speed on the straights that was fun, it was how the car went through the turns. The more I learn about driving the more I like my under powered car.

I am convinced that, in many cases "it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow." That saying is older than Humfrz, but as true today as when he was a wee sprout.

churchx · 06-27-2021, 10:38 PM

Slow cars also are often cheaper ones, and from what i see in average trackdays, cheap ones make most of car lineup there, probably because people can afford to trash cheap cars more, risk more driving closer to limit, and wearables are cheaper too. Way different with upmarket supercars, which in most cases serve as posermobile or "stoplight dragsters" on public roads, not something actually driven on track. And in rare cases when such do get taken to track, often are driven very lightly and get lapped by miatas, because what if something bad happens with one for which still years left to pay lease & often not enough money left for good tires & brake wearables if god forbid overpriced uber-duper ceramic-carbon OE ones get worn down.
Money spent on high-power build and reliability reduced also in my eyes have great chance to make car garage queen. One that gets worked on more then actually driven.

Sapphireho · 06-28-2021, 12:09 AM

I had a chevelle with a 454 that hit 720hp with nitrous on the dyno at De Anza college auto tech in 1979. It was really fast up till I hit that pole. Good times.

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06-26-2021, 04:45 PM	#15
Ernest72 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Drives: 16 Silver BRZ, 04 Silver WRX wagon Location: Rockland county, NY Posts: 1,431 Thanks: 186 Thanked 776 Times in 446 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	Sister works for Merc, years ago she came home with 4500lb Sclass AMG with 495 hp. It was a tank with insane power. So much fun. So 400hp on a lighter car will feel great. Actually the best car she brought home was an e class convertible with glass pack mufflers. Close your eyes and you were in a 60s muscle car. My dad and I had lots of fun with that car. HP did not matter, the sound was intoxicating. My dad thought he was in his 56 Chevy.

06-26-2021, 09:23 PM	#16
blsfrs Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Drives: 2013 frs base Location: central Virginia Posts: 1,450 Thanks: 2,726 Thanked 1,466 Times in 693 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s)	I've had my FRS for about 3 years. When I first took it to the track, I felt it was under powered. The more I took it to the track, I realized it wasn't speed on the straights that was fun, it was how the car went through the turns. The more I learn about driving the more I like my under powered car.

06-27-2021, 10:38 PM	#18
churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,336 Thanks: 698 Thanked 2,091 Times in 1,437 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s)	Slow cars also are often cheaper ones, and from what i see in average trackdays, cheap ones make most of car lineup there, probably because people can afford to trash cheap cars more, risk more driving closer to limit, and wearables are cheaper too. Way different with upmarket supercars, which in most cases serve as posermobile or "stoplight dragsters" on public roads, not something actually driven on track. And in rare cases when such do get taken to track, often are driven very lightly and get lapped by miatas, because what if something bad happens with one for which still years left to pay lease & often not enough money left for good tires & brake wearables if god forbid overpriced uber-duper ceramic-carbon OE ones get worn down. Money spent on high-power build and reliability reduced also in my eyes have great chance to make car garage queen. One that gets worked on more then actually driven.

06-28-2021, 12:09 AM	#19
Sapphireho Famous Potatoes Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: '15 ultramarine Location: Idaho Posts: 14,052 Thanks: 5,816 Thanked 19,660 Times in 9,250 Posts Mentioned: 163 Post(s)	I had a chevelle with a 454 that hit 720hp with nitrous on the dyno at De Anza college auto tech in 1979. It was really fast up till I hit that pole. Good times.

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