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Old 07-27-2012, 05:40 PM   #183
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I think everyone should just wait for the third thread rather than continuing the discussion with what is now outdated data.

On a side note can you do a video of the exhaust driving around exc exc
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I am working on updating. I do wonder if it is better to start a part III and post a link to that thread here and have this thread locked?


What do you guys feel is best? I feel that lets the info posted here be here, our claim stays as well. Then for the new info people will not have to dig thru this thread to find it.

I would not like to add to the 1st post as it then shows its been edited. Which brings up questions.

So let me know if lock this thread and part III is best path.
Just post the results at the end of this thread and edit the first post in this thread to append the results there as well. that way new readers won't have to dig.

holding off until monday would be a huge **** move.
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:41 PM   #185
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final claims, or not, that's completely besides the point.
Dude, I really hope you make a mistake and try to fix it and then someone rides you as hard as you're riding them. Your behavior here is really inexcusable considering how they are being really public about fixing this.

They are trying to correct their mistake, in my book that means they shouldn't be scrutinized over the mistake they are trying to fix.
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:48 PM   #186
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Just post the results at the end of this thread and edit the first post in this thread to append the results there as well. that way new readers won't have to dig.

holding off until monday would be a huge **** move.
I was just kidding. Everyone relax. Working on it now.



Blu... Hate to say it. But its time for you to add something to the thread or go away. You are only trying to stir the pot and not only myself out side of Vivid think its getting old. But others are as well.
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:51 PM   #187
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And I just got hit with a flood of emails. I'm working to post all this now. Sorry for the joking comment. Yesterday I only had 30 seconds and then a extra 30 seconds to post all the details. So I figured it was my turn to fire back another joke.


Stay tuned!
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I was just kidding. Everyone relax. Working on it now.



Blu... Hate to say it. But its time for you to add something to the thread or go away. You are only trying to stir the pot and not only myself out side of Vivid think its getting old. But others are as well.
I'm sorry you feel this way, but I think its a valid point. Also, I have only made 3 posts (4 counting this one) in this thread. At least one of which I feel was very relative to this discussion. If the mods disagree then they can delete the posts and infract me.
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:shrug: I think blu's concerns are valid. He's asked questions about what Vivid has posted, not posting attacks or pre-FT86 history (which is the rule).
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:shrug: I think blu's concerns are valid. He's asked questions about what Vivid has posted, not posting attacks or pre-FT86 history (which is the rule).
Really? When they already said there were mistakes in the previous threads, and are now trying to fix all of that by presenting accurate data with videos to back it up? I think that's harassment at this point when someone has already admitted fault, and is trying to correct that action with accurate information.

I'm not friends with AP, I'm not even going to buy their stuff since I can't use their setup in CA, but I think they deserve a chance to make this right without harassment. If this attempt to make it right ends up with the same mis-information then by all means, go to town.
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Really? When they already said there were mistakes in the previous threads, and are now trying to fix all of that by presenting accurate data with videos to back it up? I think that's harassment at this point when someone has already admitted fault, and is trying to correct that action with accurate information.

I'm not friends with AP, I'm not even going to buy their stuff since I can't use their setup in CA, but I think they deserve a chance to make this right without harassment. If this attempt to make it right ends up with the same mis-information then by all means, go to town.
Yes, but they haven't ADDRESSED some of the specific concerns. They've been selective on what they've replied to.

My position has been that Vivid should stay until evidence is posted. They were in position to be gone for good a couple times already. If the evidence supports their claims, fine. If they don't, and/or if they raise more questions I don't think anyone will have to worry about Vivid threads on here ever again.

So, if they want to address concerns, fine, but I'm not about to delete legitimate concerns that I've only seen them avoid, , skim around, or provide unbelievable answers for.

Any other mod can feel differently and delete Blu's post, but I'm not going to.
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Rabble rabble rabble, don't get the townsfolk all stirred up again
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Rabble rabble rabble, don't get the townsfolk all stirred up again
That's well within Mike/Vivids control. He could reply to specific comments instead of telling people to leave the thread. He could post dynos as they are happening, etc. He could do a lot of things. :shrug:
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Reread the post. They claimed they redyno'd the car the day of the exhaust testing. Supposedly with the flywheel mod already in it and they claimed it ran 155hp. Now they are saying the car makes 180+ hp with those same mods in it, pre exhaust.

At the very least they lied about redynoing the car the day the exhaust was put on in to make the numbers look more believable.
Agree with blu and dave_ror, this is a valid question and deserves an answer.

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That's well within Mike/Vivids control. He could reply to specific comments instead of telling people to leave the thread. He could post dynos as they are happening, etc. He could do a lot of things. :shrug:
Wouldn't it be funny if these were just the most ultimate troll threads ever....
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I think blu's comments fall into the "previously what or how" line since this is a NEW thread. This is their "fresh start" that Ichi was talking about. Dave-ROR obviously doesn't like Vivid, and I think they earned that by posting very unclear information/dodging/etc, but until the final post comes up with final numbers. There is nothing left to do, but wait.

The old posts are BAD data. They are not something that should be brought up since this is the thread to correct those points and be more transparent.
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