All-New 2022 Subaru BRZ Makes Global Debut

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by TheDonEffect

One thing I always hated about the current car were the hiw the flares were on the fenders, it was more rx8/nc miata than s2000 or z32 300zx.

Ditto. Never a fan of that style of flare, it always looks tacked-on and inelegant, and also not ideal for aero. You can push the air apart abruptly, but you need to *gently* put it back together...

I wish the new car stuck out just a little wider to give it more of that s2k/z32 effect, but such is life.

It's not that they're not wide enough, it's that the fender is so TALL. Tops of S2000 fenders are super-low (another benefit of wishbone suspension yay!). So you can make this fairly radical shape that flattens out above the tires and then fairs back into the side of the car. Sexay. Super-wide flat fender lips and tacked-on conical (or slightly ogive) flares look kinda gross and are IMO used in a vain attempt to disguise just how tall the fenders are relative to the tire diameter. I think the new car's front fenders are a big improvement...

[StE92ve]

Originally Posted by Quentin

Am I the only one that finds it slightly amusing that we have pages of people nitpicking a design that a) hasn’t even been seen in person by most

No you're not. I was going to post something to this phenomenon yesterday but it got too wordy. You got right to the point!

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Quentin

Am I the only one that finds it slightly amusing that we have pages of people nitpicking a design that a) hasn’t even been seen in person by most, b) will be one of the best looking cars available when it goes on sale this fall, and c) looks so much like the cars we all currently own/previously owned? Seriously, a lot of laypeople aren’t going to even know it was a redesign because the overall look is so similar. The first gen overall was a great looking car but it had all sorts of detail oddities and bizarre design decisions that made it look awkward at certain angles or perspectives. This is no different.


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Pfft dont talk down the internet design experts.
Years of experience at Internet Design Institute Of Technology cannot be denied.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Kronk

Enjoy.

When you can't get any translation posting something like this is just unmitigated sadism.

I and I am sure others would love to find out if and how the AT on the car has been improved.

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by Kronk

Enjoy.

Translarion:

"Yeah for Michigan and Canada this needs to be a drivable car". " I dunno man, coming off an S209 I almost soiled myself on a couple of turns today". "Lucky we're under 25 MPH".
"Who is dumb enough to drift in Hokkaido?"

[Transport3r]

Originally Posted by beltax90

https://www.reddit.com/r/ft86/commen...022_brz_build/

Not sure if I’m feeling that body color lip at the bottom, I think I prefer unpainted.

Stance is sick though

[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Translarion:

"Yeah for Michigan and Canada this needs to be a drivable car". " I dunno man, coming off an S209 I almost soiled myself on a couple of turns today". "Lucky we're under 25 MPH".
"Who is dumb enough to drift in Hokkaido?"

1:54

That synthetic engine sound. Oof. It could be the camera, but I'm hopeful there is a setting on the dash to turn it off if it actually sounds like that.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by ZDan

I'm not seeing any GR Yaris or S209 in the new car.

I can imagine a discussion like ... "we have front side air vents in the S209, why not add them to the new GR86/BRZ" and then something like ... "we have wide side rocker panels and bulging rear fenders in the GR Yaris, why not add them to the new GR86/BRZ" . "Ok. Let's try to combine these in a new design without going too off from the existing car proportions".

[OkieSnuffBox]

I've already called all the Toyota dealers in town and told them to call me as soon as they will accept a deposit or start taking preorders.

I'd like a Supra, but I'm not dropping $50k on a car that will see maybe 3k miles a year. And since my 135i broke my heart.

Like the new Z, but since it's actually going to have a starting price around $45, not $35, don't want to spend that. I think at this point the only thing that would sway me would be a really gnarly STi. Which I don't think we get the specs on until right about the time the twins go on sale. And will still be in the 40s for the higher trim levels.


Thankfully my lady and I both work from home, so it's not a big deal we only have one car right now. Sold the play car last month.

[fitcious]

I hope they keep the same characteristics of the current AT in the new one- meaning in manual mode
it will stay at redline and won’t auto shift


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[ZDan]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

I can imagine a discussion like ... "we have front side air vents in the S209, why not add them to the new GR86/BRZ"

Fender vents owe a lot more RC-F than S209. IMO they're well integrated and look fine, to me. I like them better than the non-functional add-on front fender doo-dads just in front of and below the side mirrors on the current car.

and then something like ... "we have wide side rocker panels and bulging rear fenders in the GR Yaris, why not add them to the new GR86/BRZ" . "Ok. Let's try to combine these in a new design without going too off from the existing car proportions".

'22 car's rear fenders don't bulge any more than current-gen, I don't think. The way the rockers integrate with the "bulge" area is more similar between current-gen and GR Yaris, it's just *way* more exaggerated on the GR Yaris. '22 does something different with the spats, love 'em or hate 'em. I *like* 'em, love would be too strong a word...

I wouldn't get to worked up about *why* the car looks like it does. If you don't like it you don't like it, that's enough. I've seen designs largely dictated by one guy guided solely by his artistic vision that suck, and I've seen "committee" designs that look great! Also, sometimes design aspects stolen from another car can look GREAT! Not a huge fan of the car itself, but I *love* (most of) the styling of the '93-'97 Camaro, and the front design language was basically from a '90 Geo Storm!

To me, neither 1st nor 2nd-gen seem at any of those extremes anyway. They're both solid designs that don't look derivative and are coherent and work well overall given the compromises (strut suspension = highish fenders, 2+2 config = kinda awkward-to-me rear wheel placement).

[Transport3r]

Originally Posted by mazeroni

1:54

That synthetic engine sound. Oof. It could be the camera, but I'm hopeful there is a setting on the dash to turn it off if it actually sounds like that.

It’s been said during the reveal you can turn it off.

[StE92ve]

Originally Posted by fitcious

I hope they keep the same characteristics of the current AT in the new one- meaning in manual mode
it will stay at redline and won’t auto shift

Seems likely but I recently changed my proposed ordering plan to the 6MT from the 6AT. I just think a MT give you ultimate control without having to guess if the AT will perform the way you expect it to.

[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by Transport3r

It’s been said during the reveal you can turn it off.

Oh! I missed that. Good to hear it confirmed.