Transmission upgrade options for stock power and track only use?

[RT-BRZ]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

I'd say that we answered it in a pretty straight forward manner. The upgrade is also 3k, not 6k. I think the OP would likely go this route just for piece of mind based on his posts.

Yep, I think you all did. I mentioned 6k because their website shows one of the major upgrades as costing 6k.

[pope]

Before I’d spend 6k on a gear set for the stock trans, I’d spend 5k for a CD009. You’re not* going to break a CD009 with an FA20.

*Not easily anyway.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by pope

Before I’d spend 6k on a gear set for the stock trans, I’d spend 5k for a CD009. You’re not* going to break a CD009 with an FA20.

*Not easily anyway.

The CD009 isn’t a direct drop in and after buying the additional parts it’s well over 5K is it not?

[pope]

Originally Posted by ermax

The CD009 isn’t a direct drop in and after buying the additional parts it’s well over 5K is it not?

the 5k price includes a new CD009, mounts, bellhousing, carbon drive shaft, etc... the listing description says it’s everything needed minus clutch, clutch fork, throw-out bearing, but it says you reuse your stock throw out, fork, pressure plate, and flywheel, and just need a nissan spline clutch disc.

I believe there is also (i want to say) a 3k kit option that does not include the transmission, so you’d have to source that on your own and do the necessary machining yourself.

I have no association with mazworx and I have not used this swap, I have just seen this discussed previously.

https://www.mazworx.com/mazworx-favq...t-frs/brz.aspx

[GrandSport]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

That's what I'm saying. Stock power? They're fine if they aren't abused.

WRL teams swap them out preemptively after each race. This one lasted a good 50-60 hours of hard track time, so I can't complain much.

I guess the decision is really 45k mile trans for $800 or $3k upgrade.

Thanks for the help!

[GrandSport]

Whoa, I can get a 1 year square trade warranty for $50 on an ebay trans?
Has anyone done this?

I've definitely used autozone rotors and get new ones every few track days back in the day, but this would be pretty awesome.

[Ultramaroon]

Nobody's casting aspersions. Driver mod should always be considered and I'm still hard over in that camp here. Many of us think we're better than we actually are. This transmission responds well to being babied through its weaknesses. I also argue that this "babying" is good technique for smooth driving in general.

[rice_classic]

I think if GS is getting 40-50 track hours of a transmission and he's willing to replace it often, then great.

But every car has a weakness of some type that a driver needs to work around or find themselves replacing that part often (or worse, crashing). Many manual transmission are pretty flimsy when in the hands of the ham fisted. I personally think the 86 trans should last hundreds of track hours.

Back when I instructed, "how to shift without breaking things" was a typical conversation even with seasoned students. "If you grabbed your dog like you grabbed your shifter, your dog would bite you too!" and my other favorite "There's no lap time to be gained by shifting faster than the components will allow."

[Ultramaroon]

Amen. Thanks, Rice. Exactly where I was going with it. Mechanical sympathy is a wonderful skill to develop.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by rice_classic

I think if GS is getting 40-50 track hours of a transmission and he's willing to replace it often, then great.

But every car has a weakness of some type that a driver needs to work around or find themselves replacing that part often (or worse, crashing). Many manual transmission are pretty flimsy when in the hands of the ham fisted. I personally think the 86 trans should last hundreds of track hours.

Back when I instructed, "how to shift without breaking things" was a typical conversation even with seasoned students. "If you grabbed your dog like you grabbed your shifter, your dog would bite you too!" and my other favorite "There's no lap time to be gained by shifting faster than the components will allow."

How would you propose I change my shifting behaviors to make this a reality, even in a NA car?

My fluid typically drains out grey, with even just 2 track hours on it.

[Pat]

Dear Mike:
Please stop shifting wrong. Start shifting right. That will solve your problem.
Glad I could help,
Pat

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

How would you propose I change my shifting behaviors to make this a reality, even in a NA car?

My fluid typically drains out grey, with even just 2 track hours on it.

Not bronze? Magnet will capture everything that comes from the parts that would break. What's wearing?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Not bronze? Magnet will capture everything that comes from the parts that would break. What's wearing?

Good question.

It's a bit beyond my personal knowledge, but I've sent off some grey samples for UOA.

The magnet has light paste, but is not grabbing everything in the fluid for sure; it may just be the lack of swirl.

All I know is this is very common for tracked cars in california, both north and south.

[NoHaveMSG]

It is not a good sign when your car starts making it's own never seize.