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Old 01-13-2021, 01:27 AM   #71
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The more realistic shots are with paint that isn't matte black, and with natural outdoor lighting instead of an indoor setting with light coming from every angle, which even flattens out and mostly invisibleizes the spats in front of the rear wheel.

This is what the car actually looks like, in real life:


Yes, you'll see pontoonage from the cockpit. I mean, you see the current-gen fender bumps, right? And they're actually not all that big/protuberant...
Damn what’s that red car!? Makes the blue car look like dog shit.
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Old 01-13-2021, 02:15 AM   #72
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Damn what's that blue car? Makes the red car look like it's suffering from a bad case of cut-rate orthodontia.
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Old 01-13-2021, 10:18 AM   #73
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One of the (many, many) things I loved about the 1992 Porsche 911 I once owned (and NEVER should have sold, just another in a very long line of mistakes and bad choices I've made in life...) was the ability to see those delicious, sensuous front fender pontoons through the windshield from the driver's seat.
I like the idea of having a totally open view out front, with the nose dropping away from the windshield such that you don't see anything through it but the outside world and the road unfolding before you... This is possible in a mid- or rear-engine car because the front wheels are positioned immediately in front of the cockpit. The 911 has this open front view except for the fender pontoons. Which look cool! But I think I'd enjoy the more wide-open view out the windshield from the drivers seat of a flat-nose 911

In an FR car, the front wheels are further forward relative to the driver, so some kind of fender/hood action is most likely going to be visible.

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It's one of the little things that gives be a bit of a thrill with the styling of my current BRZ, a tiny little reminder of my long lost 911(hey, I'm old, I've got to get my pathetic little thrills wherever I can find them).
Honestly, the '22s fenders are more pontoonlike than current-gen fender bumps, which are more like a very understated version of Opel GT fenders. '22 definitely more P-car/pontoonish...

Depending on how tall you are and how the seat is adjusted, you should see *some* pontoonage... Honestly though, I LOVED my 240Z's pontoon fenders but with race seat installed LOW, I couldn't see them from inside the car. But I loved the idea of a major mass being positioned as low as possible at the track a lot more than being able to see the fenders!
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Damn what's that blue car? Makes the red car look like it's suffering from a bad case of cut-rate orthodontia.
I resemble that remark!

Also, Invisalign is not cut-rate Sir.
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Old 01-15-2021, 10:20 PM   #75
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I love it now.
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Old 01-20-2021, 09:34 AM   #76
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Old 01-28-2021, 08:18 PM   #77
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Beg to differ. I find this post incredibly credible.
The side profile of the twins is very Porsche like. Especially a Cayman.
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I’d probably be a lot better with it if it didn’t look like there’s a hockey stick glued below the door.
A Marty McSorely stick. For all you King fans.lol
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I don't like the taillights. They look like they were taken of of a modern sedan. I rather have classic sports car looking taillights, but I guess that's modern styling. I was never really crazy about the original taillight either. At least they look better than the Mazda MX-5.
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I don't like the taillights. They look like they were taken of of a modern sedan. I rather have classic sports car looking taillights, but I guess that's modern styling. I was never really crazy about the original taillight either. At least they look better than the Mazda MX-5.
What even are "classic sports car" tail lights? Frequently they were literally taken from another much more mundane vehicle.

Some GT40 tails came from Corvair (and in Europe some from Simca)
McLaren F1 tails came from a fricking BUS!

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Good link on sports cars with *literally* borrowed tail lights:
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car...g-rear-lights/

For me, as long as the basic car looks good and the tails aren't actively hideous, I'm fine. '22 tails are at least specific to the car, and they do look better than '13-'16...
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What even are "classic sports car" tail lights? Frequently they were literally taken from another much more mundane vehicle.

Some GT40 tails came from Corvair (and in Europe some from Simca)
McLaren F1 tails came from a fricking BUS!

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Good link on sports cars with *literally* borrowed tail lights:
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car...g-rear-lights/

For me, as long as the basic car looks good and the tails aren't actively hideous, I'm fine. '22 tails are at least specific to the car, and they do look better than '13-'16...
Many cars are built by borrowing parts from other cars to save money. The Saleen looked ok, if you didn't know where the taillights came from, does it really matter? As long it looks good on the car. Anyway this is what the designer and the car company agreed upon as in the new BRZ. Like them or not this is what you get.
But what about the modern Ferrari taillights of the F8, 812, and SF90 to name a few? Plus all the previous Ferraris with similar taillights from years past. You don't like Ferrari styling? I'd rather have something like the taillights of these Ferraris'.
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Many cars are built by borrowing parts from other cars to save money. The Saleen looked ok, if you didn't know where the taillights came from, does it really matter?
Yeah, that's precisely my point. So what if BRZ tails did come from a sedan, as long as they look good in this context.

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Anyway this is what the designer and the car company agreed upon as in the new BRZ. Like them or not this is what you get.
But what about the modern Ferrari taillights of the F8, 812, and SF90 to name a few? Plus all the previous Ferraris with similar taillights from years past. You don't like Ferrari styling? I'd rather have something like the taillights of these Ferraris'.
Quad tails is certainly not just a Ferrari thing... They usually look fine, and I wouldn't mind them on the FT86. A bit cliche but yeah, could look cool...

Not a huge fan of modern Ferraris from a styling standpoint. Roma looks pretty OK but then that body-color painted grill kills it... Their other cars have gotten busy busy busy with their designs, and not in a good way.
Just went to their website and it SUCKS! Just want to look at pics of their cars but it's dominated by full-screen videos with terrible "camera moving around" technique that some talentless hacks thought was cool about 20 years ago!
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Just my opinion, but I wish they’d gone with a stylish evolution of the gen 1 tails. Something instantly recognizable as a BRZ, but elongated and more fluid maybe. I don’t know I can see it in my head. For me it’s not that the tail lights are terrible, just totally different, and it would have been cool to see an evolutionary design.
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I kinda like the kitsch appeal of a couple of simple round taillights. Good enough for a 90s supercar, good enough for the twins! Funny thing, simple shapes tend to age better, and round lights are a timeless shape. You can modernise them with the specific LED light signature, whilst retaining the classic round shape.

In any case, the new BRZ tails are OK. Not memorable or great looking, but not ugly either. They’re just lights.
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