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Old 12-15-2020, 11:57 PM   #43
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Got the OEM Throwout bearing & OEM Pilot bearing. How do you guys feel about the pilot bearing that comes with the Exedy Stage 1 kit, is it basically an OEM?





The Toyota part is less than $25. By the way, since you mentioned grease being the failure originally, are you referring to the grease internally in the bearing? Or the grease that you put on the inside bore? The RM says to put grease there, just want to make sure. And should I use the grease that comes with the clutch kit or get OEM?

BTW I just picked up both OEM bearings, and waiting on a rear main seal, planning to decide on a clutch and order it soon.
this thread it 2 years old so i wouldnt expect a reply, but i might be able to help as i just went through all this on mine. the updated TOB has a white paint dot on it. it is the group consensus that the ones that come in the exedy oem kit are the old ones still, theyre supposedly updating that, but the only guarantee is to use a TOB with a white paint dot on it. i got mine from veruseng.com the grease inside the sealed TOB was the failure point, not the grease outside it where it slides on the output shaft. if you wait long enough to change the TOB, youll probably need to replace your output shaft too, but i caught mine early and my output shaft was fine. i didnt replace my pilot bearing, but did replace the clutch disc with oem 30100AA870, im not sure why would would change unless youre pushing well over 200wtq. often times people replace parts with "performance" crap and reap none of the benefits, but get to enjoy all the drawbacks, because it their daily. 200tw tires on a daily, for example.

id bet the pilot bearing in the exedy oem/stage 1 kit is fine, thats never a culprit of any trouble, just the TOB's.
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Old 12-16-2020, 09:10 PM   #44
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this thread it 2 years old so i wouldnt expect a reply, but i might be able to help as i just went through all this on mine. the updated TOB has a white paint dot on it. it is the group consensus that the ones that come in the exedy oem kit are the old ones still, theyre supposedly updating that, but the only guarantee is to use a TOB with a white paint dot on it. i got mine from veruseng.com the grease inside the sealed TOB was the failure point, not the grease outside it where it slides on the output shaft. if you wait long enough to change the TOB, youll probably need to replace your output shaft too, but i caught mine early and my output shaft was fine.
you mean the input shaft? I think we caught it in time. Hopefully it didn't damage the actual input shaft itself but as far as the bearing retainer, I'm going to check it when I get in there, hopefully I don't need it.

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i didnt replace my pilot bearing, but did replace the clutch disc with oem 30100AA870, im not sure why would would change unless youre pushing well over 200wtq. often times people replace parts with "performance" crap and reap none of the benefits, but get to enjoy all the drawbacks, because it their daily. 200tw tires on a daily, for example.

id bet the pilot bearing in the exedy oem/stage 1 kit is fine, thats never a culprit of any trouble, just the TOB's.
2 different places that sell the Exedy stage 1 state that max torque is "166 ft lbs at the wheel" and past threads I found state "203" so for arguments sake, lets say it is 203. Why would OEM be okay at 200 lb/ft of torque wheel if stage 1 is 203?

I do plan on going boosted soon, and I don't want to replace the clutch twice in a year. So I'd rather do what I can while I'm in there. I don't think a stage 1 clutch is going to be too hard on daily-ing.
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Old 12-17-2020, 02:46 AM   #45
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literally at the same stage right now with parking my car two weeks ago after just getting home and realizing clutch was wonky and most likely a TOB issue given the sound and unusual clutch feel and groaning sound when pedal is in.

at the usual 60k miles on a canadian car that is boosted and always double clutch on downshift so i have heavy use out of my SBD turbo'ed with timing pulled and tweaking with an innovate boost controller and 245 tires in summer on 9" rims.

got the exedy stage 1 with a new verus clutch fork to put in with a new snout just in case and bought the newer style white dot TOB from toyota cause heard that the exedy sends you old style NTN bearing but upon unboxing today the stage 1 exedy has an NTN white dot TOB.......

gonna still use the verus toyota white dot bearing but seem like exedy has since caught up on pairing the proper bearing since the 2018 change? of course i have zero proof other than the japan part number on the bearing i got with my exedy stage 1 clutch and the white dot.

FCR62-45-14G1/L756

NTN 161912

so chime on.....
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Old 12-29-2020, 04:47 PM   #46
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I currently have southbend clutch stg2 and i replaced mine with oem TOB instead of what i came with. both oem and southbend bearing looked similar but went with OEM because of hearing failure. so far ok but who knows. i will deal with problem later if it happens to me.
i only put less than 20K on new clutch.
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