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Old 12-05-2020, 02:27 PM   #113
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Wasn't this a thread about some vaccines for the coronavirus?
What thread? We are but waves on the conversation
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Wasn't this a thread about some vaccines for the coronavirus?
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Fun story. My youngest coworker and I were leaving a job at a well-off middle managers house that is now working from home all the time.

I said something to the effect of "if this whole work from home thing goes much longer, I think we're going to see a lot of people without jobs as companies get smart and move those well paid managerial positions overseas for a fraction of the cost, just like they've done in the past with tech support."

He got a really concerned look on his face and said " no, I'm sure the government would step in to prevent that."

I'm concerned and laughing at the same time.
Due to Covid AU currently has a "job keeper" award that is paid to employers to keep their employees on the books.

From talking to a few people, when the "job keeper" award ends it will be much cheaper to out source alot of local workers

People seem to think that the services will be sub par, I cannot see that being a thing really

Currently we have alot of local sub par workers getting paid top dollar, all it would take is a smart company to cherry pick contacted employees from use usual suspect countries, savings would be substantial

People don't seem to understand the competitiveness for contracted employees from overseas and the cost savings to be had

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everyone thinks once the gravy train starts rolling, there's no stopping it!

in my lifetime, i've watched/listened as production/people were moved from america, to china, and now we're seeing the shift to india.

originally, everything was produced in america for america, because trade routes weren't as well established, the workforce and material was cheap, osha didn't exist, and america in general at the time was a growing nation.

then things were produced in china for america because everyone in america moved up the pay scale, other countries pushing for trade treaties, the overall cost of goods in america rose, and china became the developing country that america had been in the first stage.

now we're starting to see the shift to india for the exact same reasons that brought so much production to china, but now china's population is becoming better off, and the goods/services are now able to be provided by india for a more competitive rate...

it's somewhat interesting to watch in one way or another, both with the rise/fall of trade methods, but also how different forms of government deal with the result. china's subsidized the hell out of shipping to keep manufacturing there.

but with all these countries moving away from production to service industries, it's curious what the future's going to hold as the service model becomes unsustainable as it will eventually, but the countries workforce is too entrenched to re-start at the bottom of the system.
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Or get discovered. That's exactly why I don't do it. Too many skeletons in the Hawk family closet.
Are you saying that all their DNAs would be an identical match?

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We are on it and we are "serious".. nothing going to stop us now!!
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Vaccine Cards, why are they such a big deal?

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(CNN) The Department of Defense released the first images of a Covid-19 vaccination record card and vaccination kits Wednesday.

Vaccination cards will be used as the "simplest" way to keep track of Covid-19 shots, said Dr. Kelly Moore, associate director of the Immunization Action Coalition, which is supporting frontline workers who will administer Covid-19 vaccinations.
Mine will probably end up in the trash, unless someone requires me to present it for some reason
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Are you saying that all their DNAs would be an identical match?

More like I don't really want some of my relatives finding me if/when they get out of prison.
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More like I don't really want some of my relatives finding me if/when they get out of prison.
So, ........ they stole your horse and you turned them in.... ??

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Mine will probably end up in the trash, unless someone requires me to present it for some reason
Not to make a big deal but I wonder how they'll establish whether they are valid.
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Not to make a big deal but I wonder how they'll establish whether they are valid.
Well, back in my Army days, I always carried my shot record with me on my person. Although we were responsible for carrying our medical records with us when we changed duty stations, I found it handy to have my shot record in my billfold.

Why? Because the aggressive medical personnel at the entry point always wanted to give me another series of shots! I wasn't going to take any chances on getting a "peanut butter" shot.

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Maybe for the same reason the dentist usually gives you a card showing when your next teeth cleaning appointment is - just as a reminder?

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It's not hard to imagine a few different ways they could be used.

Some examples:

1. Getting into nursing homes to visit at-risk relatives (although I suppose care homes are supposed to be some of the first recipients so maybe not as important). Right now I can't visit my grandfather except for specially set-up appointments for a very short amount of time and it has to be outside on a patio even in the cold. You can't go into the facility or anything.
2. If areas have restrictions on number of patrons in a store, like there are right now, then maybe having a vaccination card could allow you in as a separate queue so you don't need to wait. (right now in California some counties are going back to like 25% capacity allowed at a time in stores)
3. Maybe being allowed to do indoor dining?
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