All-New 2022 Subaru BRZ Makes Global Debut

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

I would say depending on Dyno type

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"estimated" implies no dyno was done.
I estimate that my stock car has 400HP!

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

"estimated" implies no dyno was done.

I estimate that my stock car has 400HP!

Be nice

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[dpfarr]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

"estimated" implies no dyno was done.
I estimate that my stock car has 400HP!

I don’t think you’re very good at estimating dude.

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

"estimated" implies no dyno was done.
I estimate that my stock car has 400HP!

The question is, was it optimized or optimistic?



Edit- after I posted that burning rubber emoticon I remembered my stunt driving summons in Feb.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by dpfarr

I don’t think you’re very good at estimating dude.

Well they said it was good for 100% increase!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by wbradley

The question is, was it optimized or optimistic?



Edit- after I posted that burning rubber emoticon I remembered my stunt driving summons in Feb.

They will now use it against you in court!

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

"Estimated"? So someplace between 200 and 350 then.

Harrop supercharger at a bar of boost on E85 with an Ace header and catback. Tune is a canned/modified etune from DT. Dynoing the car now wouldn’t make much sense and dynos can all be different, but those who have typically get 350whp +/-

This isn’t mine, but the same setup.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Harrop supercharger at a bar of boost on E85 with an Ace header and catback. Tune is a canned/modified etune from DT. Dynoing the car now wouldn’t make much sense and dynos can all be different, but those who have typically get 350whp +/-

This isn’t mine, but the same setup.

OK close enough then!

We have seen some pretty wild "estimated" HP over the years.

Such as the self proclaimed world record NA power holder.

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

It could drive like dog, just like the 370z.

Ever driven a 370Z? On road and on track? It's a different experience to a twin. Not better or worse, just different. The Z has far higher limits and you can't really reach them as easily on public streets - too much mechanical grip. The twins on stock tyres have less grip and lower limits, so they can be more 'fun' for some folk thanks to the ease of breaking traction at lower speeds. Different priorities for different buyers.

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by Red-86

Ever driven a 370Z? On road and on track? It's a different experience to a twin. Not better or worse, just different. The Z has far higher limits and you can't really reach them as easily on public streets - too much mechanical grip. The twins on stock tyres have less grip and lower limits, so they can be more 'fun' for some folk thanks to the ease of breaking traction at lower speeds. Different priorities for different buyers.

I watched a Chris Harris review of the 370z and he said it's great pushing it up to 8/10 but feels dangerous past that. In contrast the twins feel controllable completely rather than having that 20% danger zone. The ability to safely slide the car around corners, even with gripper tires, really differentiates the two cars. Won't get into why they're so different but suffice it to say CoG plays a huge roll.

[Cephas]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Such as the self proclaimed world record NA power holder.

Okay that's gonna haunt my dreams for awhile. That poor car...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Cephas

Okay that's gonna haunt my dreams for awhile. That poor car...

Much is deleted but there is enough left to get the drift:

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98029

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Red-86

Ever driven a 370Z? On road and on track? It's a different experience to a twin. Not better or worse, just different. The Z has far higher limits and you can't really reach them as easily on public streets - too much mechanical grip. The twins on stock tyres have less grip and lower limits, so they can be more 'fun' for some folk thanks to the ease of breaking traction at lower speeds. Different priorities for different buyers.

Have you? Sounds like we didn't drive the same car. This is a base 370z mind you, the one that is comparable in price here.

Was not a fan so I definitely think it's much worse, it just didn't really seem all that inspiring of a car to me, similar to the lower end mustangs from 2015 and down. They just don't feel good to me at all, sluggish, porky, doesn't want to move unless its going straight.

They have power, that's about it, and in the lower trim I was cross shopping, there was a lack of an LSD.

[Cephas]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Much is deleted but there is enough left to get the drift:

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98029

Ohhhh, that guy. Part of me is sad I wasn't around yet in the halcyon days of 2015. And part of me is quite glad.