Toyota GR Yaris

[TylerLieberman]

It’s hard to say how well they would sell here if they were actually priced in the 40s. That’s a lot of money for a Yaris when you consider what kind of car you can get here for that money.

Look at the STI Type RA. People were crying and moaning for almost two decades that we never got the hot STIs here and they were strictly for JP/EU markets only, knowing damn well they were 45-60k or more over there too. Then we finally get one her and the overwhelming majority of people say “lol I can build a way better STI for 50k”. And it was even worse with the S209 lol. Some of the dealers that got them had them sitting for months before they moved.

Granted the GR Yaris is waaayyyy different to the base model, but it’s easy for people to arm chair from behind a computer and say “man I’d totally buy that if it was sold here” because there’s no commitment associated with it. It’s just talk. Out of all the people saying they’d buy, how many could ACTUALLY afford to buy? And of those, how many actually would?

IF it ever came here, it’d almost certainly be a very limited/low production vehicle. But that’s just my opinion.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

It’s hard to say how well they would sell here if they were actually priced in the 40s. That’s a lot of money for a Yaris when you consider what kind of car you can get here for that money.

Look at the STI Type RA. People were crying and moaning for almost two decades that we never got the hot STIs here and they were strictly for JP/EU markets only, knowing damn well they were 45-60k or more over there too. Then we finally get one her and the overwhelming majority of people say “lol I can build a way better STI for 50k”. And it was even worse with the S209 lol. Some of the dealers that got them had them sitting for months before they moved.

Granted the GR Yaris is waaayyyy different to the base model, but it’s easy for people to arm chair from behind a computer and say “man I’d totally buy that if it was sold here” because there’s no commitment associated with it. It’s just talk. Out of all the people saying they’d buy, how many could ACTUALLY afford to buy? And of those, how many actually would?

IF it ever came here, it’d almost certainly be a very limited/low production vehicle. But that’s just my opinion.

The internet was invented to complain about stuff you never had or never will have

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by weederr33

The internet was invented to complain about stuff you never had or never will have

Don't forgot, it's also here so you can spout your opinion as fact, that is a fact.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Don't forgot, it's also here so you can spout your opinion as fact, that is a fact.

Not true. Everything I say is a fact. I AM THE LAW!

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by weederr33

The internet was invented to complain about stuff you never had or never will have

This is a common phenomena at DPReview.

[Atmo]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Conversions aren't really that easy. The CTR isn't 45k USD. Additionally, go look at Honda France, then go look at Honda Germany.. or any other EU place for that matter, you'll find a surprise.

That sounded interesting until I ran into my lack of foreign language skills so went to the Honda UK site and configured a CTR that came in at $45,938 USD. I wouldn't be surprised is some of that is import tariffs like we see in most other parts of the world with local content rules.

https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/civ...s=19-inch-grey

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Atmo

That sounded interesting until I ran into my lack of foreign language skills so went to the Honda UK site and configured a CTR that came in at $45,938 USD. I wouldn't be surprised is some of that is import tariffs like we see in most other parts of the world with local content rules.

https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/civ...s=19-inch-grey

Spoiler, France was like 3k euro or so more than Germany, can't remember now.

Conversions are pretty hard when you include the wrong side of the world. It's a little bit easier when you think USD to CAD, still not direct, you can't go to Google and be like yeah I am math genius, but it's easier to guesstimate.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Atmo

Currency conversion is one important pricing factor plus national political and economic conditions that determine content and value. Other variables apply but in the US, we'll never get the opportunity to see what could have been.

Currency exchange rates are not a factor in determining what something costs in another country. They reflect the difference in value between the two currencies not the value of the product being purchased. The prices of goods do not go up and down as the local currency changes against the US dollar.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Spoiler, France was like 3k euro or so more than Germany, can't remember now.

Conversions are pretty hard when you include the wrong side of the world. It's a little bit easier when you think USD to CAD, still not direct, you can't go to Google and be like yeah I am math genius, but it's easier to guesstimate.

Even the Canadian to US is meaningless unless you are paying in US dollars. Do prices here go up and down with the US exchange? No they stay the same only the amount of US dollars needed to buy it changes.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Atmo

That sounded interesting until I ran into my lack of foreign language skills so went to the Honda UK site and configured a CTR that came in at $45,938 USD. I wouldn't be surprised is some of that is import tariffs like we see in most other parts of the world with local content rules.

https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/civ...s=19-inch-grey

The CTR is built in England, no import taxes.

VAT and emissions taxes would be the big differentiator between US and UK pricings, along with all the other wibbly wobbly things that make equivocating prices across borders not really real.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Even the Canadian to US is meaningless unless you are paying in US dollars. Do prices here go up and down with the US exchange? No they stay the same only the amount of US dollars needed to buy it changes.

No debate there. Really my only point is knowing the price of something in the states likely will translate to being more expensive here, by how much though is what's up in the air, especially in the automotive world.

Example, if the Supra was a straight conversion a few months ago, the price would've been even more than the 65k? Retail we have here now, but I'm sure you don't need this example.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

The CTR is built in England, no import taxes.

VAT and emissions taxes would be the big differentiator between US and UK pricings, along with all the other wibbly wobbly things that make equivocating prices across borders not really real.

Built. The parts used to assemble the CTR can still be taxed, no? I was thinking the same thing, but it didn't make sense in my head.

[Atmo]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Built. The parts used to assemble the CTR can still be taxed, no? I was thinking the same thing, but it didn't make sense in my head.

It depends on the percent of locally produced content that varies by country.

[spike021]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but holy shit:

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...the-test-drive