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Old 10-23-2020, 02:09 PM   #519
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I hate Toyota US . I want one of these.
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It is still a Yaris the same way a GTI is still a Golf.
Unique chassis, unique engine and different body panels. Built by Master Technicians in the GR Factory.

It’s basically a new sports car with a Yaris looking body on it and has little in common with the regular Yaris. It does not share a single panel with the regular five-door and it has a sleeker and wider body.
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Is a Twin with widebody kit, SC, super-duper suspension, brakes and other goodies still a Twin?
No it is not a twin anymore. However, the difference is that you are starting from a higher level. Not from the very basic level. If someone cannot understand this, then he is on its own.
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It does not share a single panel with the regular five-door and it has a sleeker and wider body.
Roofline quite a bit lower too, which is good, because the regular 5 door Yaris looks like a giant pimple. Far too tall, narrow and bulbous. I like the 3 door GR Yaris body, the world needs more 3 door sporty hatchbacks. Sportier than a 5 door shopping cart, but still more practical than a coupe with a tiny boot opening. Sadly, 3 door hatches have all but disappeared as makers rationalise their production lines on the higher selling 5 doors.

I Japan they release a cheaper FWD version of the new GR 3 door with a regular Yaris engine and a CVT. Shame they don’t export that one, would make a nice, cheaper alternative to the regular 5 door Yaris for those not needing the hipo AWD rally version.
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Roofline quite a bit lower too, which is good, because the regular 5 door Yaris looks like a giant pimple. Far too tall, narrow and bulbous. I like the 3 door GR Yaris body, the world needs more 3 door sporty hatchbacks. Sportier than a 5 door shopping cart, but still more practical than a coupe with a tiny boot opening. Sadly, 3 door hatches have all but disappeared as makers rationalise their production lines on the higher selling 5 doors.

I Japan they release a cheaper FWD version of the new GR 3 door with a regular Yaris engine and a CVT. Shame they don’t export that one, would make a nice, cheaper alternative to the regular 5 door Yaris for those not needing the hipo AWD rally version.
I cried when a 5 door Golf GTI was announced... That was the start of the fall for the 3 door hot hatch. Apparently no one wants to buy 3 door cars..
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An interesting video about a bit of off-road fun. The curious thing is that the car is clearly not stock since it has a working anti-lag system and judging from the standing start it could even have a sequential gearbox. It sounds pretty good in general and that turbo flutter at 1:46

Probably a decent example of what could be if laws are not a concern.
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So it looks like currently all kinds of journalists are driving the cars and next week Tuesday there are allowed to publish their reviews and impressions.

This fellow has already posted something though. It's not a full-fledged review but his thoughts and impressions. Obviously he is not allowed to say that he is talking about the GR but he makes it obvious that he does


"Remember those stories that used to fly around the benches of the sixth form common room in whispered tones, told simply for the sake of the telling? Gossip and tittle-tattle usually, but occasionally something that seemed momentous at the time – and always told in that “I can’t tell you who I’m talking about or how I know this, but I’ve simply got to tell somebody type of way. Well, I’m dying to tell you one about a car.

It’s just provided what might have been the most amazing drive I’ve had in anything all year. But this isn’t a review. I’ve absolutely no intention of revealing exactly which car I’m talking about, I’m afraid. I’m very much hoping, in fact, that when I’m finished here, the closest you’ll be able to come to knowing exactly what I’ve been frothing on about is via an educated, balance-of-probability guess. Not that I’m really even inviting guesses, either. If you email me a correct one, I’m bound not to tell you that you’re right anyway. Sorry.

But wow, what a car. It’s one of a breed that feels rather like it’s been in hibernation for a decade or so and that I wasn’t sure would ever really return at all. And yet, here it is. It is also a supremely, deliciously unlikely sort of fast car – because of what it is, what it’s like to drive and who has made it.

It’s really fast and incredibly eye-opening to drive but also temptingly affordable. It’s the kind of car that seems purpose-built for racking up improbable point-to-point average speeds that exceed what you imagined might be its true potential by at least double. To be bluntly honest, it’s the kind of car we used to call a ‘licence-loser’, back when it was a little bit more acceptable to joke about these things. But you could park it in broad daylight next to entirely ordinary cars and the vast majority of people wouldn’t look at it twice. “Oh, it’s only an ‘x’,” people will say. If only they knew.

I’ve just spent a couple of days driving this car on UK A- and B-roads that it suited joyously well. We’ve reached the point now when even some of our new and allegedly compact performance cars can feel, at times, like they’ve become uncomfortably large between the hedges and the white lines. We know this – we write about it frequently – and no amount of handling precision or body control can really make up for it.

Well, praise be, this new car really isn’t like that. And as well as being one of the best-sized enthusiast cars I’ve driven in recent times, it’s scandalously sure-footed and has dynamic tuning that seems quite brilliantly judged for devouring cross-country miles at pace. It isn’t over-sprung or over-responsive; it doesn’t feel like a track-day fugitive, because there’s a good dose of pragmatism and progressiveness about its body control; and it has handling manners that allow it to just keep getting better the faster you go.

I can quite appreciate that the car I’m describing may not sound very ‘now’. It was always a risk to make performance cars like this, so plainly and absolutely dedicated to the thrill of speed sampled out in the wild on the public road. There really aren’t many places left where cars like that can be enjoyed at anything like their full potential. Twenty-five years ago, when the likes of the Subaru Impreza and Mitsubishi Lancer Evo were doing their thing and the Lancia Delta Integrale, Audi Quattro and Ford Escort Cosworth hadn’t long finished doing something similar, nobody had even thought that mandatory electronic speed limiters might one day be a thing. These days, the climate in which fast cars exist has changed so much.

And yet there is still a time and a place for lightning to strike, it would seem. The improbably quick, alluringly inexpensive, slightly geeky and cultish, A-to-B-in-a-heartbeat-and-in-any-weather performance car is back – and I can’t wait to tell you more about it.

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Old 11-05-2020, 06:00 PM   #529
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So it looks like currently all kinds of journalists are driving the cars and next week Tuesday there are allowed to publish their reviews and impressions.

This fellow has already posted something though. It's not a full-fledged review but his thoughts and impressions. Obviously he is not allowed to say that he is talking about the GR but he makes it obvious that he does


"Remember those stories that used to fly around the benches of the sixth form common room in whispered tones, told simply for the sake of the telling? Gossip and tittle-tattle usually, but occasionally something that seemed momentous at the time – and always told in that “I can’t tell you who I’m talking about or how I know this, but I’ve simply got to tell somebody type of way. Well, I’m dying to tell you one about a car.

It’s just provided what might have been the most amazing drive I’ve had in anything all year. But this isn’t a review. I’ve absolutely no intention of revealing exactly which car I’m talking about, I’m afraid. I’m very much hoping, in fact, that when I’m finished here, the closest you’ll be able to come to knowing exactly what I’ve been frothing on about is via an educated, balance-of-probability guess. Not that I’m really even inviting guesses, either. If you email me a correct one, I’m bound not to tell you that you’re right anyway. Sorry.

But wow, what a car. It’s one of a breed that feels rather like it’s been in hibernation for a decade or so and that I wasn’t sure would ever really return at all. And yet, here it is. It is also a supremely, deliciously unlikely sort of fast car – because of what it is, what it’s like to drive and who has made it.

It’s really fast and incredibly eye-opening to drive but also temptingly affordable. It’s the kind of car that seems purpose-built for racking up improbable point-to-point average speeds that exceed what you imagined might be its true potential by at least double. To be bluntly honest, it’s the kind of car we used to call a ‘licence-loser’, back when it was a little bit more acceptable to joke about these things. But you could park it in broad daylight next to entirely ordinary cars and the vast majority of people wouldn’t look at it twice. “Oh, it’s only an ‘x’,” people will say. If only they knew.

I’ve just spent a couple of days driving this car on UK A- and B-roads that it suited joyously well. We’ve reached the point now when even some of our new and allegedly compact performance cars can feel, at times, like they’ve become uncomfortably large between the hedges and the white lines. We know this – we write about it frequently – and no amount of handling precision or body control can really make up for it.

Well, praise be, this new car really isn’t like that. And as well as being one of the best-sized enthusiast cars I’ve driven in recent times, it’s scandalously sure-footed and has dynamic tuning that seems quite brilliantly judged for devouring cross-country miles at pace. It isn’t over-sprung or over-responsive; it doesn’t feel like a track-day fugitive, because there’s a good dose of pragmatism and progressiveness about its body control; and it has handling manners that allow it to just keep getting better the faster you go.

I can quite appreciate that the car I’m describing may not sound very ‘now’. It was always a risk to make performance cars like this, so plainly and absolutely dedicated to the thrill of speed sampled out in the wild on the public road. There really aren’t many places left where cars like that can be enjoyed at anything like their full potential. Twenty-five years ago, when the likes of the Subaru Impreza and Mitsubishi Lancer Evo were doing their thing and the Lancia Delta Integrale, Audi Quattro and Ford Escort Cosworth hadn’t long finished doing something similar, nobody had even thought that mandatory electronic speed limiters might one day be a thing. These days, the climate in which fast cars exist has changed so much.

And yet there is still a time and a place for lightning to strike, it would seem. The improbably quick, alluringly inexpensive, slightly geeky and cultish, A-to-B-in-a-heartbeat-and-in-any-weather performance car is back – and I can’t wait to tell you more about it.

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Damnit, I want one. I'll keep repeating myself: I hate Toyota US and I am nearly sure the new "GR Corolla" will be nothing like this.
Hopefully they surprise and the GR Corolla ends up being just a bigger Yaris GR.
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Gran Turismo players can rejoice. The car will be added along with a Time Trial event on November 13th to the game



https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/news/00_4311773.html
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Hopefully they surprise and the GR Corolla ends up being just a bigger Yaris GR.
I don't think you read the above. That would completely kill what's great about the gr Yaris.

Look at the focus st vs the fiesta st, over and over again the fiesta was declared the more fun car.
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