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solidONE · 10-01-2020, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ShibusaTouge

My FRS weighs about 2300 lbs (fully gutted, caged, no ac). And it's about ready to go on the road. Would I need to order custom valved/dampened/spring rate coilovers due to change in weight distribution and weight overall?

Get somemthing OTS that can be revalved later down the line. You can do all the calculations and obsess over it before even testing, or get the ball rolling asap.

I myself spend countless hours devising what I would think make an existing 2 way shock work. Did all the work and then some. Threw them on the dyno.. Turns out the compression adjustment dont add anything but extra hysterisis... Wasted time and energy that I could have just avoided had I not been so obsessive about details.

Edit:
Rebound adjuster.. not bad not as digressive as I would have liked

"Compression adjuster" response...

Hmm.. the pictures are not showing?

ShibusaTouge · 10-02-2020, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Takumi788

Still need to know how you got down to 2300 lbs with a cage! lol. I am out of things to remove and apparently my car is still fat.

Cut out all the metal from the doors, tomei since it's the lightest, carbon roof, carbon trunk, mph fab hood, essex sprint bbk, "swiss-cheesed" where applicable

Alarik · 10-04-2020, 01:43 PM

Need an advice about further suspension spec. What we've got now is 2013 brz on stock shocks and Eibach sportline springs +camber bolts on front(-2 camber atm). This car is mainly used for track days and i don't care about ride comfort, only performance matters

There're still a lot of things to be done with the car for track days besides the suspension so the question is should i go for some kind of coilovers like BC racing DS series or they aren't worth it and it's better to buy new B6 for my Eibach springs and save money for other mods?

churchx · 10-04-2020, 05:05 PM

Alarik: more, more, MORE camber, if for track. Move up to -3 to -4 in front, depending on tires/track.

Alarik · 10-04-2020, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by churchx

Alarik: more, more, MORE camber, if for track. Move up to -3 to -4 in front, depending on tires/track.

Easier said than done, it's almost max camber with this spec. That's one of the reasons for BC's coz i'll get camber adjustments

churchx · 10-04-2020, 06:07 PM

You can add front camber with stock shocks if you add eg. pedders eccentric rubber topmounts and/or powerflex front lca rear bushing on top of camberbolts. Or camberplates.

Captain Snooze · 10-05-2020, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Takumi788

Still need to know how you got down to 2300 lbs with a cage! lol. I am out of things to remove and apparently my car is still fat.

If you want to read about weight loss you should have a read of this thread.
His second post in the thread details all the weight savings.

new2subaru · 10-05-2020, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

If you want to read about weight loss you should have a read of this thread.
His second post in the thread details all the weight savings.

And this thread. @SuoerTom is doing a great job with his build.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118243

Takumi788 · 10-05-2020, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

If you want to read about weight loss you should have a read of this thread.
His second post in the thread details all the weight savings.

I attached that exact thread and mentioned it in my original question on the last page of this thread. lol. That thread is bookmarked

Racecomp Engineering · 10-05-2020, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Alarik

Need an advice about further suspension spec. What we've got now is 2013 brz on stock shocks and Eibach sportline springs +camber bolts on front(-2 camber atm). This car is mainly used for track days and i don't care about ride comfort, only performance matters

There're still a lot of things to be done with the car for track days besides the suspension so the question is should i go for some kind of coilovers like BC racing DS series or they aren't worth it and it's better to buy new B6 for my Eibach springs and save money for other mods?

What other options do you have?

What kind of tires do you use?

- Andrew

Alarik · 10-05-2020, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

What other options do you have?

What kind of tires do you use?

- Andrew

atm only spec that i described +intake, if it matters. But i got plans to reduce weight a bit, headers+exhaust and dyno tune. Wheels 7.5J, tires Federal RS-RR\Rs-Pro, Hankook RS4 215 or 225 width, depends on local series regulations.

Racecomp Engineering · 10-05-2020, 12:22 PM

Sorry I meant what other choices for suspension do you have? KW maybe?

- Andrew

Alarik · 10-05-2020, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Sorry I meant what other choices for suspension do you have? KW maybe?

- Andrew

Oh, my bad

KW, ST, Eibach, Bilstein and Tein can be bought here, i guess. Something else will require shipping from US +taxes.

Racecomp Engineering · 10-05-2020, 12:45 PM

Most of those (including Tein) are much better than BC. We like KW and Bilstein a lot but they don't always come with camber plates.

- Andrew

10-05-2020, 12:45 PM	#3934
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10-04-2020, 01:43 PM	#3923
Alarik Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Drives: BRZ '13 Location: Ukraine Posts: 20 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Need an advice about further suspension spec. What we've got now is 2013 brz on stock shocks and Eibach sportline springs +camber bolts on front(-2 camber atm). This car is mainly used for track days and i don't care about ride comfort, only performance matters There're still a lot of things to be done with the car for track days besides the suspension so the question is should i go for some kind of coilovers like BC racing DS series or they aren't worth it and it's better to buy new B6 for my Eibach springs and save money for other mods?

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churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,334 Thanks: 698 Thanked 2,086 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Alarik: more, more, MORE camber, if for track. Move up to -3 to -4 in front, depending on tires/track.

10-04-2020, 06:07 PM	#3926
churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,334 Thanks: 698 Thanked 2,086 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	You can add front camber with stock shocks if you add eg. pedders eccentric rubber topmounts and/or powerflex front lca rear bushing on top of camberbolts. Or camberplates.

10-05-2020, 12:22 PM	#3932
Racecomp Engineering Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2016 BRZ, 2012 Paris Di2 & 2018 STI Location: Severn, MD Posts: 5,517 Thanks: 3,541 Thanked 7,412 Times in 3,032 Posts Mentioned: 310 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	Sorry I meant what other choices for suspension do you have? KW maybe? - Andrew

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