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Ernest72 · 08-05-2020, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nextcar

Playing Devil's advocate...

Don't get me wrong; I like the base car and think it is fine for the vast majority of buyers...

What I would like is the OPTION for a bit more power that is a fully engineered solution with a factory warranty, no issues getting serviced anywhere, and passes emission testing. Think STi and WRX, not replacing but complementing. Edelbrock and a few others come close with their kits, but as someone that has gone through J02 (mandated by state for registration) I would be pissed to have to return to stock for the recall...

Yes, I realize they would not sell a large number of these compared to the base model, and it has probably been "spreadsheeted" to death for return on investment...

But it is what I WANT and would buy... even if the price overlapped the low end Supra (which I have no desire to own)

I get it, it’s what you would want or pay for. But the OEM looks across the market and there is not enough people to justify the huge expense. If the current car was 35k it might not sell because of competition. The price point is very important and you can’t get everything at the current price point.

Lantanafrs2 · 08-05-2020, 10:24 PM

All the thing really needs is some more oomph to appear a little more serious. If its 2 tenths quicker than the miata the journalists would be at least temporarily unable to call it "nice but underpowered".

soundman98 · 08-05-2020, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vides990

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/180273

This is definitely an interesting read on subaru today, best car does seem a little confused though haha

assuming this isn't media-speak, that is extremely odd news. so a subaru plant is supposedly going to end up producing a toyota-only product? i don't recall a scenario where that's happened before.

WildCard600 · 08-05-2020, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98

assuming this isn't media-speak, that is extremely odd news. so a subaru plant is supposedly going to end up producing a toyota-only product? i don't recall a scenario where that's happened before.

I don't really see it as completely out of the question. Toyota owns 20%+ stake in Subaru and if the cars are selling well enough in Eight Six guise I don't see why they wouldn't keep building them even if only for Toyota exclusively.

soundman98 · 08-06-2020, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WildCard600

I don't really see it as completely out of the question. Toyota owns 20%+ stake in Subaru and if the cars are selling well enough in Eight Six guise I don't see why they wouldn't keep building them even if only for Toyota exclusively.

20% of ownership in the parent company is enough to dictate what another company does with their production line? yes, it's already tooled for the job, but it seems like a stretch..

Lightened · 08-06-2020, 02:11 AM

86MLR · 08-06-2020, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightened

Yeap,.power point and the Interwebs, a match made in heaven, what could go wrong...

Lightened · 08-06-2020, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 86MLR

Yeap,.power point and the Interwebs, a match made in heaven, what could go wrong...

A lot but a great conversation starter.

Tcoat · 08-06-2020, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vides990

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/180273

This is definitely an interesting read on subaru today, best car does seem a little confused though haha

So what this says is that Subaru does not have enough fleet carbon credits to offset whatever they are doing to the car so they will drop it for now. It makes sense since they will want to keep those credits for the higher volume models.
Toyota on the other hand has enough hybrids to keep the credits covered and maintain the model.

Although still clickbait and I remain as skeptical as ever this one at least agrees with what I thought was going to happen at some point before 2025. It also supports what I have said about mileage and emissions control being limiting factors in how far they will ever take these cars.

FitchAlcyone · 08-06-2020, 10:42 AM

Forget the new BRZ, I wanna know more about Series.Wilderness.

Dadhawk · 08-06-2020, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FitchAlcyone

Forget the new BRZ, I wanna know more about Series.Wilderness.

Yoshoobaroo · 08-06-2020, 01:18 PM

A BRZ in this color combo would be sick actually.

Vides990 · 08-06-2020, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98

20% of ownership in the parent company is enough to dictate what another company does with their production line? yes, it's already tooled for the job, but it seems like a stretch..

I'm pretty sure subaru actually built Camrys for Toyota until either the newest or previous gen, could be wrong though.

Tcoat · 08-06-2020, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vides990

I'm pretty sure subaru actually built Camrys for Toyota until either the newest or previous gen, could be wrong though.

2007 to 2016 but only in the US plant.
But... it was just a contract not Toyota forcing them to do anything. Happens all the time with many makes and models.

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