Vortech Supercharger

[GFo12ce]

On the 370Z they partnered with Stillen to develop/sell the kit. Maybe they'll look to do that on this car too? If they do pray it's someone that has a solid fuel/timing management solution.

[BRAWL]

Roots type blowers have their drawbacks mate, with heatsoak a real big one unless you have bonnet room for a cooler (not gonna happen on the 86).

I personally am looking at a procharger/vortech style setup but have plenty of times to weight up the pros and cons whilst saving. Turbo is not preferred, but that is personal choice really.

Hater gonna hate

[ultra]

I'd accept nothing less than a TVS series blower plus some sort of intercooler setup.

Non TVS blowers are obsolete at this point.

I like Vortec style SCs for the extra torque but would also be interested to see a Rotrex-style solution for comparison.

Also curious to see what folks will be doing as far as tuning solutions. Hopefully something solid like a Megasquirt, Hydra or ECUtek solution without having to step up to an AEM standalone, and no lame AVC-R or cheap piggyback setups.

[Synack]

Originally Posted by ultra

I'd accept nothing less than a TVS series blower plus some sort of intercooler setup.

Non TVS blowers are obsolete at this point.

I like Vortec style SCs for the extra torque but would also be interested to see a Rotrex-style solution for comparison.

Also curious to see what folks will be doing as far as tuning solutions. Hopefully something solid like a Megasquirt, Hydra or ECUtek solution without having to step up to an AEM standalone, and no lame AVC-R or cheap piggyback setups.

THIS. Thanks for this reply.

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[roddy]

Just my opinion...I'm with ultra on this one.

I'm not a fan of the centrifugal supercharger (vortech/paxton, procharger, etc). They are basically a belt driven turbo... If I want a turbo, I'll get a whole turbo, not 1/2 a turbo. Don't get me wrong, they make great power, but need lots of RPMs to really shine. My car is a street car, and as such, doesn't spend a lot of it's time above 4000 rpms. This car is very low on torque, and would really benefit from the power characteristics of a Positive Displacement blower (Eaton "roots"/TVS, twin screw, etc). A small TVS (R660 or R900) would be a perfect match for this car. I'm not hatin' on Vortech, I just think that a PD blower would be a better match for this car. If someone brings a PD kit to market, I'll be on that like a fat kid on a chocolate bar.

[dabocx]

I would love to see a TVS series on this car but i honestly have no clue how they would package as R900 on here. Hopefully someone can

[ultra]

Apologies to the OP if I came off as being overly harsh or rude on the Vortec SC.

If it'll get more HP and generally do the job then great, another option for people to consider. Plus it's proven.


I just couldn't help noticing what's been happening elsewhere in the aftermarket supercharger world. Things have progressed a lot with the advent of the Rotrex and TVS blowers as well as engine management solutions.

More power to ya (pun intended).

[denverizzles]

Originally Posted by ultra

Apologies to the OP if I came off as being overly harsh or rude on the Vortec SC.

If it'll get more HP and generally do the job then great, another option for people to consider. Plus it's proven.


I just couldn't help noticing what's been happening elsewhere in the aftermarket supercharger world. Things have progressed a lot with the advent of the Rotrex and TVS blowers as well as engine management solutions.

More power to ya (pun intended).

No hard feelings whatsoever man! Didn't even take it that way. I'm just excited that there are more companies starting to make products for our cars. It's hard having a car right when it first comes out because you never know what's going to be good and what's going to be a bust.

[FRkane]

I had a 03' mach 1 with a p1sc. Loved the power and how well everything came together. Almost looked factory. Yet, this sounds stupid to make a complete judgement on a purchase just because of a sound. Yet, compared to my 03 cobra with the eaton. THE SOUND SUCKED. I loved the whine the eaton put off. Completely intoxicating!

[cruzinbill]

you would think someone would jump at the chance to do a roots style... the top of the motor is just begging for it.

[Tradewind]

No matter what is developed by whom - its all in the tuning. For now Accelerated Performance has more IP on how the reflash tuning etc works than anyone else anywhere

[TRooper]

Hello everyone,

While I am not a current Vortech employee, I do have some very intimate details of the upcoming Vortech kit, information on which other companies are working in collaboration with Vortech on supplying tuning as well as calibration assistance as well as general insight about some of the questions being asked.
I am a former employee of Vortech (6+ years) who is still great friends with several current employees in marketing, sales, manufacturing, and the engineering sides of the company. I am also heavily involved in the Subaru community community, Nasioc for 8+ years, I am a moderator on 2 other Subaru Forums, as well as on another FR-S forum. Basically, what I'm getting at is that I feel I am well versed in the Subaru Boxer engine fairly well, and the benefits and advantages of having a major manufacturer like Vortech creating a supercharger kit for this new and exciting platform.

Originally Posted by Synack

I want a turn key S/C.

I like wheeeeee whoooooosh

Vortech will offer both a complete kit as well as a "Tuner kit"
A complete kit is just as the name implies. It is one part number that you can order from any Vortech dealer and install onto a 100% stock vehicle. It will include everything you need to install the kit, such as supercharger, brackets, ducting, intercooler, bypass valve, fuel system upgrades, and computer tuning. It even includes small pieces such as hose clamps, silicone sleeves, and every nut and bolt that you would need to install the kit. There will be no need to make a parts store run halfway through the installation.

A Tuner kit is a complete kit minus the fuel and tuning upgrades. The customer will supply his own fuel and programming accessories. This is for the customer who has built or upgraded his engine or just wants to crank up the boost past what the standard Vortech ships with.

Originally Posted by thorlius

Get them on here doing a thread like Accelerated is for their TC kit.

For some reason I went with a 7 year comprehensive warranty on the car so if I do anything to the car, it'll have to be TRD... but it's nice to have options, and it's very nice to see customer interaction and development processes, which shows confidence in their ability to release a great product.

Vortech will soon have official company representatives as well as dealers of theirs on various BRZ/FRS forums. Also of note, Vortech did co-develop a kit with TRD for the tC in the past, so we do know Vortech's quality is of the highest standards if Toyota chose them to develop a kit to be sold through TRD dealers. **NOTE-the new FRS/BRZ kit will be a Vortech branded kit, it will have no affiliation with TRD.

Originally Posted by SpeedBRZ

i think a Supercharger would be great addition for those drifters out there. a cheaper and satisfying hp boost. Hopefully it will be affordable and cheaper then competitors turbo kits.

The pricing will be competitive and on par with other forced induction offerings.

Originally Posted by FRkane

if we can just get ATI procharger to make one too. Self contained, no drilling into the oil pan.

Vortech has had self contained units that do not require the need to tap the pan for a drain line for several years now. In my opinion, Vortech offers a better self contained gearcase than ATI Procharger. Unlike ATI, the Vortech gearcase is vented, which means you won't over-pressurize the gearcase and blow out the front input shaft seal. Those who have actually owned an ATI will attest to the persistent oil seepage issue from the gear case's front seal. Vortech also has a great solution to checking oil level, draining and refilling the unit as well. The whole process of servicing the blower with new oil takes about 10 minutes, tops.

Originally Posted by Godzilla35

you can't just make a thread like this and have no info!!! oh noez... the wait begins... again...

I hope this has offered some insight to the upcoming Vortech kit. As is the case with kits under development, more information will come out as the kit goes through its development stages. I can tell you that Vortech is working on a FRS/BRZ kit. It will use Vortech's proven compressors, Vortech is consulting with some Major Subaru manufacturers in the aftermarket industry, and this will be an excellent kit that makes safe and reliable horsepower.

Originally Posted by GFo12ce

On the 370Z they partnered with Stillen to develop/sell the kit. Maybe they'll look to do that on this car too? If they do pray it's someone that has a solid fuel/timing management solution.

They are partnering with another manufacturer who does have a grasp on tuning the new engine. They are also consulting with yet another Subaru heavy hitter in the Subaru parts manufacturing world to make sure this will be a solid proven kit.

I think some major advantages of the kit will be the smooth linear power delivery that will continue to make smooth drivable power all the way to redline. This car and engine combination will never drive like a torquey V8 Mustang or Camaro. If you are on this forum or if you own or have driven an FR-S or BRZ you already have a great understanding of where this car excels. This blower kit will only compliment the car's strengths. It will remain nimble, with a linear power band that won't upset the cars handling.

[Citified]

What kind of fuel economy hit would you take by installing a kit like this?

[Silverdub]

Thanks TRooper that was a nice and usefull post. Cant wait to get more details