(GR86) Second Generation FR-S/BRZ insider info...

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Opie

Just got word of the official 2nd gen / mkII model names...

BRZ^2
86^2

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[Tcoat]

They have tried updating 86 before. It didn't work.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Existed and common are not the same. Calling a hatch a "five door" is relatively a new term. Even when it was used it was usually 5 door hatchback not just 5 door.

Funny nobody has mentioned lift backs yet. Once upon a time it was a more common designation than even hatch was. Especially with Toyota.

But a liftback is simply a type of 3 door/5 door hatchback. It's used to describe a hatch back that is more horizontal (Like many old Toyotas, or a Tesla Model S) vs the more standard hatchback like a GTI.

3 door/5 door is still the standard and has been. Just because Mfrs didn't want to confuse people with such terms doesn't mean they are new or anything.

[TylerLieberman]

So is there like anything ACTUALLY official of this happening at this point?

Or is it still just kind of up in air and people are just basing their claims off a leaked image in a dealership meeting room?

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

So is there like anything ACTUALLY official of this happening at this point?

Or is it still just kind of up in air and people are just basing their claims off a leaked image in a dealership meeting room?

yes.

people are making a career out of chinese telephone. i'm just annoyed they haven't accepted any of our additions.

[86MLR]

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

So is there like anything ACTUALLY official of this happening at this point?

Or is it still just kind of up in air and people are just basing their claims off a leaked image in a dealership meeting room?

No. These kind of cars aren't going to be the first projects getting spun back up in the post COVID-19 world.

[TylerLieberman]

Still waiting for credible info that it’s coming (next year) like everybody keeps saying.

All I’ve seen is that they planned to make another one... which was announced prior to covid. It’s been silence since the announcement. No test mules seen. Haven’t seen anything about trademarks for the name “GR 86” or anything like what we saw with the original FRS/BRZ or the Supra.

[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

So is there like anything ACTUALLY official of this happening at this point?

Or is it still just kind of up in air and people are just basing their claims off a leaked image in a dealership meeting room?

The dealership presentation is 2 for 2.

But 100% it is a refresh with a NA 2.4. Good luck!

[evoto86]

I just want pop up headlights, don't care about Turbo.

[86MLR]

I just want turbo, don't care about pop up headlights.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

But a liftback is simply a type of 3 door/5 door hatchback. It's used to describe a hatch back that is more horizontal (Like many old Toyotas, or a Tesla Model S) vs the more standard hatchback like a GTI.

3 door/5 door is still the standard and has been. Just because Mfrs didn't want to confuse people with such terms doesn't mean they are new or anything.

This is my point!
They have always been around but the common name has evolved over time.
I never once said that the concept was new but simply that the term "5 door" is used more now than it used to be.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by 86MLR

I just want turbo, don't care about pop up headlights.

I'd prefer a supercharger, but would trade the super or turbo charger for a targa, pop-up headlights and louvers.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

This is my point!
They have always been around but the common name has evolved over time.
I never once said that the concept was new but simply that the term "5 door" is used more now than it used to be.

And I quote...

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Calling a hatch a "five door" is relatively a new term.

New term != "used more now than it used to be."