Fujitsubo 4-2-1 manifold

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz

I saw that graph on a FB group and IG, the owner and JDL say that it is the UEL header not the 4-2-1.

Ah, my info may be incorrect then.

Gah.

[gpvecchi]

I'm not that interested in ACE or JDL header because of the fitting issues, so I'm more oriented to the Fujitsubo...

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

If the results are there, the demand will also be there.

Case in point: Ace A350. Its still king, and still regularly is in backorder, even though it's very obviously expensive.

It's unfortunate that they can't at least publish something applicable to their international market. It's almost as if they just don't care, or have no interest.

Fujitsubo has 1 person on staff that can understand English: Fujitsubo-san himself (the grandson not the founder).

He's the same age as Kenji at Cusco minus the overseas experience. Everything they do is reliant on their overseas partners, which is basically Cusco USA.

So that's why there is no interest/they don't care. None of the dealers were stepping up to try to help or steer the sales strategy. I tried my best to help but it ended up all in flames with FR

[PulsarBeeerz]

Originally Posted by gpvecchi

I'm not that interested in ACE or JDL header because of the fitting issues, so I'm more oriented to the Fujitsubo...

Ok?

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by gpvecchi

I'm not that interested in ACE or JDL header because of the fitting issues, so I'm more oriented to the Fujitsubo...

Looks like you might have to pay the price for the full exhaust system. Though if you don't want the catback portion, you could just sell it.

[Lantanafrs2]

Just hammer the pan flat in one spot. Dont overthink it. These ain't Lamborghinis.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by gpvecchi

I'm not that interested in ACE or JDL header because of the fitting issues, so I'm more oriented to the Fujitsubo...

Don't you have the STI axleback?

[gpvecchi]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Don't you have the STI axleback?

Exactly, I'd keep the header and FP, and pair it with my catback.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by gpvecchi

Exactly, I'd keep the header and FP, and pair it with my catback.

I don't know. Personally I trust the factory heat shields. Sometimes you need to sacrifice a bit of performance for more piece of mind. I don't want to be afraid passing road puddles with standing water when the header is hot! This is a road car, not a dedicated racing car and I want to keep it for many years. Another issue is future maintenance and to find easy parts let' say a decade from now. It seems to me a kind of mess having to find after a long period of time a different header (given the rarity of the specific), to make a new program and so on. It would be much easier to find stock parts. If I was planning to keep the car for a maximum of 5 years, then I wouldn't care that much.

Will you wrap the header, overpipe and front pipe? Fujitsubo provides a wrap only for small areas of the exhaust that are close to other car parts. It is not enough to wrap the complete exhaust.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

I don't know. Personally I trust the factory heat shields. Sometimes you need to sacrifice a bit of performance for more piece of mind. I don't want to be afraid passing road puddles with standing water when the header is hot! This is a road car, not a dedicated racing car and I want to keep it for many years. Another issue is future maintenance and to find easy parts let' say a decade from now. It seems to me a kind of mess having to find after a long period of time a different header (given the rarity of the specific), to make a new program and so on. It would be much easier to find stock parts. If I was planning to keep the car for a maximum of 5 years, then I wouldn't care that much.

Will you wrap the header, overpipe and front pipe? Fujitsubo provides a wrap only for small areas of the exhaust that are close to other car parts. It is not enough to wrap the complete exhaust.

You dont have to throw the original out. Stuff it in the closet.

[gpvecchi]

Well, I owned a Peugeot 206 RC before, it had stainless steel 4-1 header and metal cat, and no under body protection nor lower heat shield (just upper).
They became red under hard use, never had a problem during normal road use...

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by gpvecchi

Well, I owned a Peugeot 206 RC before, it had stainless steel 4-1 header and metal cat, and no under body protection nor lower heat shield (just upper).
They became red under hard use, never had a problem during normal road use...

Yes... but Peugeot has normal inline engine with the header located sideways and not underneath the engine close to road. I wouldn't say that in our cars the header is located in an optimal position and it is also a reason factory needs to place the engine higher than usual...

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Yes... but Peugeot has normal inline engine with the header located sideways and not underneath the engine close to road. I wouldn't say that in our cars the header is located in an optimal position and it is also a reason factory needs to place the engine higher than usual...

I have had an aftermarket header and op/fp on my car for years. Driving it even in the winter time in freezing weather splashing through puddles and it is fine.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

I have had an aftermarket header and op/fp on my car for years. Driving it even in the winter time in freezing weather splashing through puddles and it is fine.

quite fortunately this car has a giant try underneath to spare the header of water/ice/snow.