2020 Toyota GR Supra Revealed! - Page 154 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

iLuveKetchup · 03-11-2020, 11:42 AM

Size is getting out of hand when a (981 & 718) Cayman GT4 is bigger than a 996 GT3 (best one IMO).

Dave-ROR · 03-12-2020, 03:01 PM

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The Miata has to meet safety regs too, and it's barely 100 lb. heavier than when the 1990 NA was introduced. Likewise the FT86 is precisely a modern S13 240SX, and weighs barely if any more. Meanwhile a modern 911 is visibly MUCH bulkier than a 1990 and is 400-500 lb. heavier. I don't think it got there because "safety". It got there by becoming a much bigger and more luxurious car.

A miata from 1990 is a bit different than a 911 from 1965 or whatever, which is basically what it was until the 996. Since then, which was what, 24 years, it's grown a whole 4 inches in length and about 400lbs in weight. So it's grown more than the Miata but it's also become a FAR more capable car than the base 996 also with much heavier components. (I mean the Miata is more capable too I guess.. but.. different league in terms of performance)

So some safety and quite a bit more from performance. Luxury wise it hasn't changed all that much in 20 years.

And S chassis cars are just fat for their age. And they suck. I hope to never touch one again in my life lol

ZDan · 03-12-2020, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

A miata from 1990 is a bit different than a 911 from 1965 or whatever, which is basically what it was until the 996.

The earlier 911s were a *lot* lighter than 1990. Hell, a 1970 911 (2250 lb) actually weighed about the same as a '90 NA Miata (2210 lb)! But then it gained more weight from then up to 1990 (3050 lb) than it has since then...

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Since then, which was what, 24 years, it's grown a whole 4 inches in length and about 400lbs in weight. So it's grown more than the Miata but it's also become a FAR more capable car than the base 996 also with much heavier components. (I mean the Miata is more capable too I guess.. but.. different league in terms of performance)

It was the same kind of "different league" in 1990 as now. 83mph vs. 106mph in the 1/4 then, 95mph vs. 125mph in the 1/4 now.

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So some safety and quite a bit more from performance. Luxury wise it hasn't changed all that much in 20 years.

Then they just suck at evolving cars. Miata only gained ~6% mass while also improving safety and performance vs. 1990 vs. 911. Likewise the FT86 has similarly improved performance and safety vs. 1990 S13 240SX at ~0% mass gain.

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And S chassis cars are just fat for their age. And they suck. I hope to never touch one again in my life lol

S13? I loved my '91. S14 was kinda meh though... Even for the time they were not considered fat/heavy. Then as now I would have greatly preferred a more cab-rearward, shorter-wheelbase, lighter-weight 2-seat version though.

gymratter · 03-17-2020, 12:12 AM

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/03/16/...-homologation/

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Deliveries to customers begin immediately

The Toyota GR Supra GT4 is finally ready to hit the track in an official series capacity. After extensive testing by European motorsport company Stéphane Ratel Organisation (SRO), the Supra completed the last stages of homologation and is now eligible for a variety of races across Europe. The first customer deliveries are expected to begin immediately.

The new Supra GT4 debuted in concept form in March 2019 and showed its production-ready face a few months later. Technically, the GT4 has already raced, but that was for the Nürburgring 24 Hours.

The GT4 is equipped with a turbocharged 3.0-liter inline-six that makes 430 horsepower and 479 lb-ft of torque, and Toyota notes there are "different power sticks available to comply with Balance of Performance (BoP)." That engine pairs with a paddle-shift seven-speed automatic, and power goes to the rear wheels. Toyota lists a weight of 2,976 pounds, much less than the Supra road car's curb weight of 3,397 pounds.

In addition to the carbon fiber aero kit, the GT4 car has a number of performance upgrades and tweaks. It has a Magneti Marelli ECU, a motorsport-spec limited-slip differential, an upgraded GKN Motorsport driveshaft, an Akrapovič racing exhaust system, Brembo brakes, KW adjustable racing dampers, 18-inch OZ wheels, and Pirelli rubber. For safety purposes, it has an ATL FT3 safety fuel cell, an FIA-approved roll cage, and an OMP racing seat with a six-point safety harness.

Because demand was so high, the first round of GT4 cars has already been sold out. Germany-based Ring Racing has purchased two cars with intentions to race in the ADAC GT4 Germany championship, France-based CMR will take one car to the European GT4 Series and another to the French GT4 Series, and United Kingdom-based Speedworks Motorsport will take a Supra to the British GT Series.

Orders have been taken for the next round of cars, and Toyota plans to deliver that batch in the summer.

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Atmo · 03-22-2020, 11:27 PM

The Supra 4 is looking better by the day. Of course the world has changed so it may not arrive when expected but think this will become more popular than haters believe. This could become the 86 v.2.0 so many have wanted should the base price be <$40K before incentives.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/tgs...pra-drifts-too

gymratter · 03-23-2020, 02:15 PM

$42k is the starting price tag that is being flowed around on our sister forum.

BA9092 · 03-23-2020, 02:36 PM

The first review of the 2.0:

LancePower · 03-23-2020, 03:37 PM

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The first review of the 2.0:

I only watched the intro, but I kept waiting for that guy to ask..."Do you want to pet my monkey?"

BA9092 · 03-23-2020, 03:53 PM

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I only watched the intro, but I kept waiting for that guy to ask..."Do you want to pet my monkey?"

OMG! Yes, I totally remember that SNL!

Infinity · 03-23-2020, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gymratter

$42k is the starting price tag that is being flowed around on our sister forum.

What is the sister forum? supramkv.com?

Lantanafrs2 · 03-24-2020, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BA9092

OMG! Yes, I totally remember that SNL!

Dieter from sprockets.

gymratter · 03-26-2020, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Infinity

What is the sister forum? supramkv.com?

Impureclient · 03-31-2020, 07:50 PM

That guys videos are always so informative and concise.

Dadhawk · 03-31-2020, 08:47 PM

Got this today in the mail. I have no idea why.

View Poll Results: How many 86 owners are planning on getting the Supra?
I'm definitely getting one	32	12.12%
I might get one if they offer a MT	100	37.88%
No, not me.	132	50.00%
Voters: 264. You may not vote on this poll

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