Regrets on Automatic?

[Tcoat]

[Impureclient]

Well, we all know why some guys like the manual transmission so much.
Need that satisfying feeling of a stick in the hand at all times.

[Tcoat]

[HKz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well if our robots at work are any indication it is really going to suck when your legs either randomly stop moving or just start spinning and won't stop for no apparent reason.

what is the difference between that and a non-cyborg getting a heart attack, seizure, sneeze, passing out, etc while driving?

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Ernest72

Ask people who have injured knees or arthritis and they will tell you that AT is absolutely easier than MT. This has been confirmed by even the strongest supporters of MT. So I think we can say that AT is easier for commuting and the MT is more engaging and therefore potentially more fun.

One does not follow the other, at least not for everyone.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by HKz

what is the difference between that and a non-cyborg getting a heart attack, seizure, sneeze, passing out, etc while driving?

They don't look nearly as silly!

[HKz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

They don't look nearly as silly!

ok you got me there

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Ernest72

Ask people who have injured knees or arthritis and they will tell you that AT is absolutely easier than MT.

I have both and experience exactly the opposite. Movement is good for arthritis. I have to be careful when driving my automatic Jeep because my left knee will get inflamed, stiffen up and sometimes swell. That doesn't happen in the BRZ because I'm using it more.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

If you find driving MT to be more exciting during regular daily driving then it is just because it is new or different to you or you are a hazard on the public roads.
Anybody driving MT for a long time (in my case 47 years) you no longer put any more thought into shifting than you do steering or braking. It is not more "engaging" when you don't even realize you are doing it.

Yes it is. 36 years here driving manual, so it's not new to me, and I'm not hooning around town. I've been seriously considering converting the Eagle over to manual to make it more engaging during my 30 second 0-60 pulls.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well if our robots at work are any indication it is really going to suck when your legs either randomly stop moving or just start spinning and won't stop for no apparent reason.

The last local TV station that was stupid enough to employ me had robotic cameras. The camera operator would program the newscast into them, then they would autonomously perform all the dollies, zooms, pans, etc. with a single operator to tweak the pictures from all four cameras. When they were done, they would all find their little home position cross mark on the floor in a neat line and go to sleep.

One day, for no reason anybody could figure out, one of the sleeping cameras woke up, looked around, and attacked the camera behind it, shattering the mirrors in both of their teleprompters and damaging the lens rail supporting one of them. Then it looked down and, for lack of a better description, sagged as if sad at what had happened.

I was in the studio waiting for a reporter when it happened and witnessed the whole thing. The operator was nowhere near it. That night they had to run the newscast manually with cameras from the old studio. I think the engineers ended up completely reinstalling the controller software to get that camera to stop misbehaving.

[extrashaky]

I want to make another comment about this:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

It is not more "engaging" when you don't even realize you are doing it.

On the contrary, it's more engaging because I don't realize I'm doing it.

When I drive an automatic, I feel like there's a layer of technology between me and the road. I feel like I'm operating a dumb piece of machinery. Turn this wheel. Push this pedal. Monitor that readout. It feels like I'm in service to the machinery. ZZZZzzzz....

When I drive a manual, especially a manual sports car, that layer of technology starts to melt away. I am engaged with the machinery in the sense that it feels more like an extension of my body. I'm not serving the machinery and it's not serving me, because there's not much separation between us.

Maybe you don't get that same sense of engagement, and that's fine. But for some of us, the separation of driving automatics is more exhausting and tedious.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

I want to make another comment about this:



On the contrary, it's more engaging because I don't realize I'm doing it.

When I drive an automatic, I feel like there's a layer of technology between me and the road. I feel like I'm operating a dumb piece of machinery. Turn this wheel. Push this pedal. Monitor that readout. It feels like I'm in service to the machinery. ZZZZzzzz....

When I drive a manual, especially a manual sports car, that layer of technology starts to melt away. I am engaged with the machinery in the sense that it feels more like an extension of my body. I'm not serving the machinery and it's not serving me, because there's not much separation between us.

Maybe you don't get that same sense of engagement, and that's fine. But for some of us, the separation of driving automatics is more exhausting and tedious.

Meh we have been through this a dozen times. It has become exhausting and tedious so not doing it again.

[humfrz]

YIKES, are we still talking about this?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by humfrz

YIKES, are we still talking about this?

That has to be the flattest ass in human history!

[accwai]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

[...] Throw it in D and not have to think about it? Having to think about it goes away. I have to think about driving autos, telling myself to keep my left foot on the footrest and not to press the clutch. [...]

I drive MT, AT and DCT interchangeably these days. I left foot brake often in non-MT so there is no need to keep the left foot somewhere. The AT is full auto without manual override. I can keep track of speed/rpm just fine so I never drive the DCT in auto. The thing doesn't have paddle shifters though. So if I were the whiny type, I would probably jump on forums and complain about sequential vs H-pattern causing disorientation, accidents etc. But that isn't the case. The mental shift among transmission types is quite automatic actually.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

That has to be the flattest ass in human history!

Yep, for a non Asian girl -


humfrz