AP Exhaust Numbers

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by vividracing

I am sure people will see 200whp out of these cars. This is not an old low tech motor.

A good recommendation to Agency Power, would be to Dyno each item. Catback only, then add a header, then remove Cats... etc.

That would be great, because some customer only want some parts not all. So if I want the catback system, I have no idea how much power does that make and don't know if it is worth it.

[clayrush]

Sounds beautiful. now I need a vid of a drive by please
Tryin to see how much money i have on my credit card. I want the system for the sound alone.
40hp does sound a bit nuts to me but i have 23 with just ported stock headers, catless mid and intake on my GT-S

[chadr0]

Originally Posted by ahausheer

40hp from boltons without a tune is unheard of on a 2L NA engine. I am very skeptical.

I don't know, you could see very close to those numbers with a good I/H/E set-up on an 06-11 Civic Si, even without a tune. I'm more skeptical about the torque numbers than the hp though. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if this can be backed up. If so, count me in

[vividracing]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Lol. Whatever...

Originally Posted by Superhatch

Maybe lowest base run and highest exhaust run? I'll need to see the dyno on another car to believe this, sorry. Right now it's labeled as too good to be true.

Its the same base run. We made 155whp out of our car on the same dyno. Our numbers where also right in line with many others.

Originally Posted by ahausheer

BS

Or is this is the full exhaust system ?

And all this without a tune? Still seems like to much HP but I hope that is legit.

I will bring out the details in the morning on which parts of the AP exhaust was used. The car ran without a tune. Stock ECU, Stock Airbox

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

It's the type of numbers that would make me buy the product just to prove theyre wrong. I'll gladly eat crow if they're legit.

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay

don't buy the dyno at all

a 2.0 making +40hp on exhaust and headers? yeah maybe if one run was on cheap gas and the next on race gas

You still will not see a good gas gain because you are still running stock mapping in the stock ECU. Race Gas would hurt power and be a waste of time and money.

Originally Posted by dabocx

If you can prove it ill be inline to order. But i dont see how you got so much more power than anyone else.

I hope to be proven wrong

I'm not about to put something up that can not be backed up. I will say results will vary, Each car is broke in different, runs different and so on. You guys forget, Its not a Toyota motor. Its a Subaru. You can get these types of gains just off a tune on some Subaru's. And this motor runs very well. We were all surprised at the high number.

Originally Posted by Innova

Why does this metal tube produce more than twice the power of the competitors' metal tube?

Because AP did their homework.

Originally Posted by FakeWhiteMan

Ummm cause power is in it's name, duh.

That is the Key!

Originally Posted by pcasso87

Im getting mine next week, im putting her on a dynojet with a trd filter. I get free dyno pulls from my sponsor JMS so i will be confirming gains from the catback. Im sure with just an exhaust it will make 6-8hp since the stock piping is a joke plus the stock exhaust is very restrictive.

Stock i made 161 on a dynojet so + 8 hp on exhaust should be around 169 + 18 hp conservative gains from a header = 187whp. Plus i think that car has a test pipe installed since it is very loud so extra hp there.

I am not doubting vivids claims since i know that high compression engines react very good to I/H/E i know that s2k's can gain up to 25 hp just from headers.

Thank you. You made a few more on the Dynojet then our Mustang. People don't seem to understand how a well made quality system can make things happen.

Originally Posted by Cheddar

Holy crap positive camber in the front like a mofo!

Hahah. We still have to set up the KW v2 we have on the car. But I promised some dyno action last week. So here it was!

Originally Posted by lopro25

For Real

Originally Posted by Cheddar

So is it with or without?

Stock ECU, Stock AirBox. Sorry I should have been more clear. Lots of locals have seen the airbox we have made. And I forgot that its not been posted yet.

Originally Posted by markmatley

Lets give this some time to back the results up. Why is everyone bashing up front? =(

When the 2006 WRX came out people did the same thing. How can a WRX stock make almost as much as a STi.. NEVER... lol You all asked for me to post up dyno stuff and I did.

Originally Posted by ahausheer

40hp from boltons without a tune is unheard of on a 2L NA engine. I am very skeptical.

No its not. And this is a very well designed motor from Subaru and Toyota. So why not? Honda can do it.

Originally Posted by mattles

... what is this magic?

Come on by I'll be happy to share.. I think you got a ride right when you where here. That was early version since its been upgraded.

[vividracing]

Originally Posted by chadr0

I'm more skeptical about the torque numbers than the hp though. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if this can be backed up. If so, count me in

Welcome to the land of the boxer..... Crazy torque!!

[vividracing]

Originally Posted by sportsguy83

A good recommendation to Agency Power, would be to Dyno each item. Catback only, then add a header, then remove Cats... etc.

That would be great, because some customer only want some parts not all. So if I want the catback system, I have no idea how much power does that make and don't know if it is worth it.

I know this was done today. I just have to wait to get the details.

Originally Posted by clayrush

Sounds beautiful. now I need a vid of a drive by please
Tryin to see how much money i have on my credit card. I want the system for the sound alone.
40hp does sound a bit nuts to me but i have 23 with just ported stock headers, catless mid and intake on my GT-S

Ha.. a drive by. Those are hard to do with a cell phone. I tried to do my best just with the dyno run.
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Ok, I am off to dinner. I will be back after a bit to help with questions.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by vividracing

I know this was done today. I just have to wait to get the details.

Thanks a lot. now THAT I am looking forward too. How much power does the Catback make.

I will eagerly await

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by _hollywood

Back in my honda days hytech exhausts made big power vs the others, and it was just a bunch of metal tubes?

It wasn't just metal tubes

[GirlyScions]

Originally Posted by vividracing

Could be street legal. Where are you from?

A comedian eh?jk My name/discription says PA/Pennsylvania. Unless im missin somthing then the jokes on me I guess

[_hollywood]

Tryin to see how much money i have on my credit card.

dont do it, been there done that, haha cash is king,

AP seems to be doing some serious R&D since they have had this car before the general public and have taken this long to release some numbers. Good job guys

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by GirlyScions

A comedian eh?jk My name/discription says PA/Pennsylvania. Unless im missin somthing then the jokes on me I guess

Pretty sure what happened was he answered to seven people in one post including you so most probably he just quoted all of you and when he read it was just your quote, not your original post, so he genuinely didn't know where you from.

[_hollywood]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

It wasn't just metal tubes

Sarcasm, :happy0180: i could never afford their 1300 headers but it was always on my bucket list for my ultimate b18c5 build...

[thebear21]

don't be mad just cuz you don't have one yet.

[xjohnx]

how'd the after run get 200 extra RPMs on a "stock ecu"?