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I'm a skeptic by nature.
I don't believe things. Religions. Astrology. Homeopathy. I believe none of that. I also didn't believe that a $400 set of pads of unknown origin could be significantly better than something like the sub-$200 XP10. I was wrong. The CSG C1 are life-changing. Today was my first HPDE on them. Stock car except for SX2 tires, pads, fluids and crash bolts. This is the best braking I've ever experienced on track. It reminded me of the PFC pads I had on my C6. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the CSGs were made by PFC. It's not just the lack of fade. The XP10s were fine there. It's the control, the modulation, the confidence. I shaved 2 seconds off of my best time at my home track. And I was more consistent lap after lap than before (to be fair, this is not all thanks to the pads. I also experimented with tire pressures more than usual, and got good results) I can't comment on how long they will last (yet). But unless they wear out in like 3 days, I am re-ordering. |
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I've been trying CSG Spec C1 front + Project Mu Club Racer rear (because C1 rears were out of stock) on my '17 PP BRZ lately, previously I've only tried the stock pads. Other than my BRZ with stock pads, I've previously tracked a few other cars with track pads.
With the CSG C1/PMu CR combo, the brakes feel very consistent and I didn't experience any fade on the track. The perceived level of friction is so much higher than stock pads that I spent a few laps just re-learning how to trail brake and heel-toe. It also took me a bit to re-learn how to use the brake pedal at AutoX (admittedly, this isn't a pad for autox, see laso below). Honestly, I'd personally prefer slightly lower level of friction to have a bit more control, but maybe I just need more practice. Perhaps this level of performance makes more sense when using higher-grip tires (I'm on SX2s now). The pads get really noisy when street driving, but are otherwise safe to get to and from the track so you can do all the pad swaps at home with cold brakes and tires. In fact, I kept them in the car for ~3 weeks between my track days just because I'm lazy to swap them back and forth. Last edited by timurrrr; 10-30-2019 at 04:59 PM. |
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Oh maybe it's indeed the stiffness of the pads that makes the control a bit too sensitive.
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Just a minor recalibration on what you're used to. OEM pads are not meant to be high performance track pads, which is a common misconception even on high end sports cars. Even proper street legal super cars need a good pad to perform on track despite having a large brake system and dual compound pads.
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I'm currently running PMU Racing 999's on my 2018 BRZ tS with a JRSC and 200TW tires. Been having excellent results with the 999's, but thinking of moving up to the C1 or C2's this season. I'm solely doing HPDE and Trackcross Events. Would C1 or C2 be the more appropriate transition. From CSG's website, it sounds like C2, but everyone here is having great results with C1's. Curious if my extra power would require the C2's.
Great to hear these generate some less heat than the 999's. They made the white Brembo letters in my front calipers turn salmon/pink-colored! Right of passage I guess to separate me from all those pearly white letters I see running around. Any insight would be greatly appreciated! |
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Thanks, Mike! I currently run Toyo R1R’s, but may be swapping to RS-4’s - haven’t decided yet though. C1 sounds like it should be great. Worth sticking with the PMU brake fluid, or swap to Winmax or RBF660?
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I'm in an area where temperature dips to mid ~30-40F at night and wondering if C1 will work at the temperature? Thank you!
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