Sub talk.

[Mr.ac]

Originally Posted by LimitedSlip

But the sealed box will produce tighter, more accurate bass assuming the amplifier has an adequate dampening factor so as to control the excursions of the driver.
Kind of depends if you are interested in music or sound effects. Its always about compromises. Just sayin' . . .

Yes it's about compromises.
But.... depends how the vent is tuned. If it's tunes for a lower frequency it matters not. It's just going to be a bigger box.

Back in my bass head days I always tuned my ports for 35 hertz. Now that's pretty fucking deep. Sure it was 3 cubic ft box but dam with only 300 watts at 135 db. Yeah I won a few awards at the db drag events long time ago.

[Howaitoguru]

Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Yes it's about compromises.
But.... depends how the vent is tuned. If it's tunes for a lower frequency it matters not. It's just going to be a bigger box.

Back in my bass head days I always tuned my ports for 35 hertz. Now that's pretty fucking deep. Sure it was 3 cubic ft box but dam with only 300 watts at 135 db. Yeah I won a few awards at the db drag events long time ago.

So the box makes a difference too?


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[Mr.ac]

Originally Posted by Howaitoguru

So the box makes a difference too?


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Oh hell yes.

[Leonardo]

Originally Posted by Howaitoguru

So the box makes a difference too?


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This explains things better than I can...
http://audiojudgement.com/thiele-sma...ers-explained/

[Mr.ac]

Originally Posted by Leonardo

This explains things better than I can...
http://audiojudgement.com/thiele-sma...ers-explained/

How dare you use math to explain subwoofers and boxes.

Just buy a 4th order bandpass cause I'm a bass head.
Or just buy a vented box cause I like rock.
That's sarcasm by the way.


That's a good read.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Howaitoguru

So the box makes a difference too?


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absolutely. the box is the acoustic space that any speaker operates. you can change how loud your voice is just by cupping your hands around your mouth, the same principle applies to any acoustic device.

here's a video where the same speakers are used in 2 different boxes.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNGSNqz7-rs[/ame]

Originally Posted by Mr.ac

How dare you use math to explain subwoofers and boxes.

Just buy a 4th order bandpass cause I'm a bass head.
Or just buy a vented box cause I like rock.
That's sarcasm by the way.


That's a good read.

good thing you said it was sarcasm or i was gonna, well, nevermind.

will a bandpass box even fit in these cars?!?

considering that the trunk is 6.9cu ft, i seriously considered sealing the whole thing and using it as the box for 2 15's... i couldn't even run a 10 free air with that!

[Howaitoguru]

Originally Posted by soundman98

absolutely. the box is the acoustic space that any speaker operates. you can change how loud your voice is just by cupping your hands around your mouth, the same principle applies to any acoustic device.



here's a video where the same speakers are used in 2 different boxes.

good thing you said it was sarcasm or i was gonna, well, nevermind.



will a bandpass box even fit in these cars?!?



considering that the trunk is 6.9cu ft, i seriously considered sealing the whole thing and using it as the box for 2 15's... i couldn't even run a 10 free air with that!

So let’s simplify it since you guys know what you’re talking about. If I bought 1 JL W6 10” sub what kind of box should I use? I wanted to get a wheel well box made. However idk if I’ll have enough space to fit that speaker in there. Also what size amp should I run for just that? I was going to get a separate amp for door speakers when I upgraded that. Lastly I wanted to upgrade the head unit and get a capacitor. I’d like it to be simplified. And I’d rather not spend $3000 at radioactiv for a subpar system.


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[Howaitoguru]

Originally Posted by Drifter X

10" JL W6v2 in a factory spec sealed box and 600w in my trunk. I freaking love it.


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What’s a factory spec sealed box? Do you think I could get that speaker to fit in my wheel well?


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[Leonardo]

Originally Posted by Howaitoguru

So let’s simplify it since you guys know what you’re talking about. If I bought 1 JL W6 10” sub what kind of box should I use? I wanted to get a wheel well box made. However idk if I’ll have enough space to fit that speaker in there. Also what size amp should I run for just that? I was going to get a separate amp for door speakers when I upgraded that. Lastly I wanted to upgrade the head unit and get a capacitor. I’d like it to be simplified. And I’d rather not spend $3000 at radioactiv for a subpar system.


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JL makes a wheel well sub box for our cars. It comes with a woofer, not the one you mentioned. IMO, caps are totally unnecessary, especially for the system you are building. An amp should have enough power for a woofer. I think 200 to 500 watts is a good size sub amp. I had a 100watt x 2 sony Mobile ES amp hooked to two 15" Rockford Fosgate DVC woofers. It hit 137db. So, not all amps are created equal. Anyway, you get what you pay for. (luckily these days car stereos are way cheaper than in the 90's when I was installing them)


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[Howaitoguru]

Originally Posted by Leonardo

JL makes a wheel well sub box for our cars. It comes with a woofer, not the one you mentioned. IMO, caps are totally unnecessary, especially for the system you are building. An amp should have enough power for a woofer. I think 200 to 500 watts is a good size sub amp. I had a 100watt x 2 sony Mobile ES amp hooked to two 15" Rockford Fosgate DVC woofers. It hit 137db. So, not all amps are created equal. Anyway, you get what you pay for. (luckily these days car stereos are way cheaper than in the 90's when I was installing them)





https://www.crutchfield.com/S-9m6uFl...SABEgIovfD_BwE

Unfortunately I can only find the stealth box that goes in the side.


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[Leonardo]

Originally Posted by Howaitoguru

Unfortunately I can only find the stealth box that goes in the side.


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Do you mean the kind that fits in the spare tire?

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Howaitoguru

So let’s simplify it since you guys know what you’re talking about. If I bought 1 JL W6 10” sub what kind of box should I use? I wanted to get a wheel well box made. However idk if I’ll have enough space to fit that speaker in there. Also what size amp should I run for just that? I was going to get a separate amp for door speakers when I upgraded that. Lastly I wanted to upgrade the head unit and get a capacitor. I’d like it to be simplified. And I’d rather not spend $3000 at radioactiv for a subpar system.


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you'd need almost 7" of depth for a w6. i don't believe there's 7" of depth anywhere in the car..

i believe the integrity concepts box might be deep enough, but integrity went dark about a year ago. my stolen box is likely floating around, but i'll give anyone $200 that can find it.

i'm running a 6" deep sub(peerless xxls 10"), and the airspace is just barely what's needed. i think a w6 would be oversized for the box.

why a w6?

what exactly are your goals for space, and expectations for loudness?

any car audio shop is going to encourage you to buy everything, what are your overall goals? 2 amps in 2 separate installs is going to be a pain.

[Howaitoguru]

Originally Posted by soundman98

you'd need almost 7" of depth for a w6. i don't believe there's 7" of depth anywhere in the car..



i believe the integrity concepts box might be deep enough, but integrity went dark about a year ago. my stolen box is likely floating around, but i'll give anyone $200 that can find it.



i'm running a 6" deep sub(peerless xxls 10"), and the airspace is just barely what's needed. i think a w6 would be oversized for the box.



why a w6?



what exactly are your goals for space, and expectations for loudness?



any car audio shop is going to encourage you to buy everything, what are your overall goals? 2 amps in 2 separate installs is going to be a pain.

My body has a w6 12 in his Kia telluride and it hits so hard. I figured a 10 would be solid. But I was also told to get two 10’s in a ported box by someone else. And it should hit fairly hard especially since I removed the back seats. I’m so confused. The audio shop by my house is so expensive. They mark up everything 40% but idk I just want a system that hits hard. People keep telling me different shit and I’m getting confused.


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[Howaitoguru]

Originally Posted by Leonardo

Do you mean the kind that fits in the spare tire?

Yeah JL doesn’t have one. They just have stealthboxes that go in the passenger side space in the trunk. I guess that’s technically the wheel well too huh? But yeah I meant the wheel well for the spare.


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