Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[kev0]

Well I'm certain there is a leak somewhere. I just can't find it. Performed a smoke test and soapy water test. Found a couple of leaks but we have since fixed it but the problem still persists.. I'm at the point where I'm about to uninstall the kit and reinstall it. Can a leak cause a spark plug to misfire?

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by kev0

Well I'm certain there is a leak somewhere. I just can't find it. Performed a smoke test and soapy water test. Found a couple of leaks but we have since fixed it but the problem still persists.. I'm at the point where I'm about to uninstall the kit and reinstall it.

Check install. My tune from Moto East was really good out of the box. Did you give Mike your complete list of modified parts?

[kev0]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

Check install. My tune from Moto East was really good out of the box. Did you give Mike your complete list of modified parts?

I sure did give Mike a list of all my mods. I'm going to do a tear down of the install again.. I NEED to get this fixed.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by kev0

I sure did give Mike a list of all my mods. I'm going to do a tear down of the install again.. I NEED to get this fixed.

Be patient and take your time. Its well worth it in the end. Walk away for the night and start fresh in the morning.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by kev0

Well I'm certain there is a leak somewhere. I just can't find it. Performed a smoke test and soapy water test. Found a couple of leaks but we have since fixed it but the problem still persists.. I'm at the point where I'm about to uninstall the kit and reinstall it. Can a leak cause a spark plug to misfire?

A misfire is usually a bad spark plug. However since I’m assuming you had no issues prior and you don’t need to touch those for install I would rule that out.

Then it would most likely either be from a leak someplace. Make sure every single hose has a tight secure hose clamp and or zip tie on both ends and the hose is fully pushed on and seated.

Misfires can also often be caused by dirty, clogged injectors, or the injector seal was damaged/pinched on install, did he use grease on the injector seal when installing to prevent damage like the manual suggests? Or if he did, did he use too much and get some In the injector clogging it. or make sure the injector harness plug fully seated and connected properly.

After resolving any issues/leaks are you clearing all the codes before starting back up and testing it?

Also just to make sure it’s not something super obvious... are your map and maf sensor stock? Are they plugged in? Did you make sure not to pinch and damage the o rings?

[kev0]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

A misfire is usually a bad spark plug. However since I’m assuming you had no issues prior and you don’t need to touch those for install I would rule that out.

Then it would most likely either be from a leak someplace. Make sure every single hose has a tight secure hose clamp and or zip tie on both ends and the hose is fully pushed on and seated.

Misfires can also often be caused by dirty, clogged injectors, or the injector seal was damaged/pinched on install, did he use grease on the injector seal when installing to prevent damage like the manual suggests? Or if he did, did he use too much and get some In the injector clogging it. or make sure the injector harness plug fully seated and connected properly.

After resolving any issues/leaks are you clearing all the codes before starting back up and testing it?

Also just to make sure it’s not something super obvious... are your map and maf sensor stock? Are they plugged in? Did you make sure not to pinch and damage the o rings?

My installer will be doing a full tear down tomorrow to get to the bottom of this. I also did make sure to clear codes before starting back up and testing. All sensors are stock and plugged in. There's no way that the spark plugs/coil packs broke after the install..that would have to be an insane coincidence.. I'm pretty sure it's just a leak somewhere that I cant see.

[toast]

A leak will show up as large (20% or so) positive short term fuel trims at idle. Do you have an idle log? If it is very bad they will be maxed (+29%) meaning you are dumping fuel to compensate for the leak and you can dump so much you get misfires.

[kev0]

I think I know why my car wasn't starting up. I seem to be missing a hose and a valve from step 5.18 in this manual: https://www.innovatemotorsports.com/...wvMeUjixoZNJM0

Also, does anyone know the differences with kits with part 6010, 6011 than the 6012,6013? I ask this because I was following a different manual during the installation that didn't mention any of the parts from the first manual. This was the manual I followed: https://www.innovatemotorsports.com/...T86_Manual.pdf

My kit is nonintercooled which is why I followed that manual..

For those with the kit installed, do you guys recall doing step 5.18?

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by kev0

I think I know why my car wasn't starting up. I seem to be missing a hose and a valve from step 5.18 in this manual: https://www.innovatemotorsports.com/...wvMeUjixoZNJM0

Also, does anyone know the differences with kits with part 6010, 6011 than the 6012,6013? I ask this because I was following a different manual during the installation that didn't mention any of the parts from the first manual. This was the manual I followed: https://www.innovatemotorsports.com/...T86_Manual.pdf

My kit is nonintercooled which is why I followed that manual..

For those with the kit installed, do you guys recall doing step 5.18?

I believe it is 210 intercooled and non intercooled and 335 intercooled and non. But it doesn’t matter.
You should be using sprintex install manual. Innovate stopped supporting this kit long ago. Sprintex has updated the install manual.

Also 5.18 is the brake booster. You just reuse your hard line and add on a longer hose but it needs rerouting, I explained this previously and told you to double check it... take a few pictures of your install and brake booster line.

[kev0]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

I believe it is 210 intercooled and non intercooled and 335 intercooled and non. But it doesn’t matter.
You should be using sprintex install manual. Innovate stopped supporting this kit long ago. Sprintex has updated the install manual.

Also 5.18 is the brake booster. You just reuse your hard line and add on a longer hose but it needs rerouting, I explained this previously and told you to double check it... take a few pictures of your install and brake booster line.

Thank you. I was using the Sprintex manual (http://sprintexusa.com/wp-content/up...6_Rev_1.30.pdf) during my install. On page 21 step 17, it specifically says to replace the hard line though?

[kev0]

Also, my installer took everything apart. He believes that it could be an issue with my intake gaskets which is why cylinder 4 isn't firing correctly.

https://imgur.com/a/fH0d4nI

This didn't happen before the SC. Could it be a faulty installation with a leak somewhere in the hoses or are my gaskets done?

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by kev0

Thank you. I was using the Sprintex manual (http://sprintexusa.com/wp-content/up...6_Rev_1.30.pdf) during my install. On page 21 step 17, it specifically says to replace the hard line though?

You take the manual brake booster line that should have come with your kit. remove the check valve, install the hard line in place of the check valve and re install brake booster line rerouting it out of the way of the supercharger. I already showed you pictures of this line and how it’s routed. You could have one long soft line but you do not have a long enough hose. So you need to make up a suitable line reusing your hard line and the hoses supplied.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by kev0

Also, my installer took everything apart. He believes that it could be an issue with my intake gaskets which is why cylinder 4 isn't firing correctly.

https://imgur.com/a/fH0d4nI

This didn't happen before the SC. Could it be a faulty installation with a leak somewhere in the hoses or are my gaskets done?

I’m assuming you mean manifold gasket? It would have been wise to replace those before installing. At least inspecting them for any damage before install.

[kev0]

Yes, manifold gasket. They were new but I guess they got dirtied up during the install. I will need new ones. Do you know where I could pick some up? Or do you know the sizes of them?


My installer believes its the reason why Cyl 4 is misfiring and giving me vacuum leak symptoms. Cyl 4 is the only one that looks like that.