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05-29-2019, 12:25 AM | #15 |
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Yup! Same license plate, just checked on Turo haha!
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Wow, small world indeed.
What's crazy is less than a month after renting the same 86 you drove, my roommate sold his AP2 S2000 + Miata (pending) and picked up a (very similar) '17 Ablaze 86 -- the Turo rental certainly made a strong impression on him. (Our Ketchup & Mustard combo) Quote:
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ND engine and trans inside a BRZ layout would be perfect. The Skyactiv 2.0 was a capable little engine and I had no complaints when I had the Mazda3.
As it stands, the clutch and shifter on the 86 are the only things I didn't like. |
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The clutch is a bit high compared to other MTs and took me quite a while to get use to. The shifter is fine,but becomes great if you add a Raceseng Ashiko weighted knob,and I can't even imagine what it would feel like if I put a Kartboy in!
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OP: I'm @dhuang's roommate. I really enjoyed that rental and ended up buying essentially the same car once I made it back home. I enjoyed taking that car around the fun roads near LA and el mirage but it took me over an hour to detail the car before I brought it back. Hope it was still clean for you
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Honestly though, I owned a Mazda3 2.5 MT for 2 years and never really liked the engine much, it was the weakest link. Maybe it was just the gearing and the fact that the 3s are setup for efficiency. At least the FA20 has some kind of character to it. |
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I still have my 2002 Mk IV. It has over 275,000 miles on it and still runs like new.(after spending 10's of thousands of dollars over the years to keep it running. I stripped out the interior and use it pretty much as a pickup truck anymore. Just taking out the seats alone lightens it by at least 300 lbs. It really hauls ass now. As far as shifter comparisons, the FR-S has the tightest shifter I've ever had. And I've had a lot. The GTI has by far the worst shifter ever made IMO. It feels like moving a stick around in a tub of luke warm tar. Once you buy the 86 you'll never drive the VW again. I'll bet. |
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Maybe I had a bad apple, but the shifter on 86 just felt very flimsy. It was cool seeing the stick shake a little when you fire up the engine, but using it wasn't exactly what I expected. Maybe bushings, weighted shift knob, or some other aftermarket part could take care of that. |
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The direct connection also is what makes it feel weird when used to cables and shafts. You get used to it really fast. To me cable type shifters feel sloppy and loose.
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I like the GTI. When I got the FRS, it was in third place, behind the Abarth and tied with the Golf R. If the GTI or R were cheaper, maybe things woulda been different. We also ended up getting a Fiat 500E, which is like an Abarth with a better motor and worse suspension. Honestly, one of the most fun cars ever. I still think of buying a 500e, stripping the interior completely, putting on some hacked together Bilsteins, and installing a Recaro seat. It would be epic fun.
I no longer dream of the GTI or Golf R at all.
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I was surprised that I preferred the shifter on the GTI, as you all correctly pointed out, is a cable linked mechanism. Stock-for-stock, the 86 wins out marginally, but with the aftermarket bits, the GTI feels better for me. I'll definitely invest in a short shifter kit and a mount insert when I do get a 86/BRZ. I just love the steering feel more than anything else.
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Also surprised about your preference for the GTI gearshift. I recently drove a MT mk5 GTI and the shifter was smooth, but vague. Fun car otherwise though with a stage 2 package.
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