ACE Header Independent Testing Results and Review - 199.6WHP on CA 91 Octane - Page 60 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

CSG Mike · 11-01-2018, 02:31 AM

Another graph, with the graphs scaled identically but translated to best-fit stock torque curves, so that torque gains against stock can be compared.

DeliciousTuning · 05-15-2019, 12:08 AM

We have released new NA Stage 1,2 and ACE tunes for the BRZ/86/FRS. (Including Flex Fuel Updates)

Version 12.00 for Stage 1
Version 13.00 for Stage 2
Version 14.00 for Stage 2 + ACE header.

Improvements include
- New Cam Table Profiles
- New Fuel Table Adjustments,
- New Timing Advance Tables
- New DI/PI control mechanism

We also have added on the EcuTeK ECUConnect
- Custom MAF Trim %
- Custom WOT Timing %
- Custom Traction Control % (NA Tunes)
- Custom Boost Pressure Set Point (Flash & Go Tunes)
- Optional Pops % Bangs Switch
- Optional Crackle Slider

RaceROM Maps Have Also Changes
- Custom Race Throttle Spec (tested for immediate response)
- Improved Autoblip (for those that like that option)
- New Valet features

Regards,
William Knose
Delicious Tuning

conehead · 05-15-2019, 01:01 AM

Wow, glad I found this thread. This car was begging for a 4-2-1 header. UEL was a half assed bandaid for the torque dip.

evoto86 · 05-15-2019, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conehead

Wow, glad I found this thread. This car was begging for a 4-2-1 header. UEL was a half assed bandaid for the torque dip.

You went from UEL to EL ?

FastWhite · 05-15-2019, 01:13 PM

So, what is the difference then from an older DT/Ace tune to this newer revised version.
I’m anal enough to get the update if the gains are enough?

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Breadman · 05-15-2019, 04:39 PM

so if my ace + flex tune is v11.x i guess i am very behind?

conehead · 05-15-2019, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evoto86

You went from UEL to EL ?

No, I will go from stock to 4-2-1. UEL has that nice subie sound, but it is not the best option for performance. Actually wondering now the different versions of this exhaust compare (150/350/400/etc).

I'm new to this platform so maybe a 4-2-1 option is old news, but I didn't know about it. My SVT Focus came stock with a 4-2-1 and it was perfect. There were no aftermarket headers that could beat it.

strat61caster · 05-15-2019, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conehead

I'm new to this platform so maybe a 4-2-1 option is old news, but I didn't know about it.

First post in this thread is from 4 years ago

jflogerzi · 05-15-2019, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastWhite

So, what is the difference then from an older DT/Ace tune to this newer revised version.
I’m anal enough to get the update if the gains are enough?

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Probably not. The lower numbers produce more in the top end for track and the higher end numbers bump more in the mid range and also give you some top end where it's better suited for DD driving.

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Pat · 02-17-2020, 06:16 PM

Does anyone have a dyno comparing the original Delicious stage two tune to the revised one? I'd love to see how they compare on a graph, even though I understand some of the benefits may not show up in that format.

jflogerzi · 02-19-2020, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat

Does anyone have a dyno comparing the original Delicious stage two tune to the revised one? I'd love to see how they compare on a graph, even though I understand some of the benefits may not show up in that format.

Get in touch with CSG. CSG now does in house tuning vs working with DT now. The update should be free for you if your already tuned with DT.

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Pat · 02-19-2020, 10:50 AM

Thanks, jflogerzi. Mike and I are already planning on talking Friday.

prezes_wojtek · 08-24-2020, 09:39 AM

To anyone who is using this header: What is header height vs stock header? Is it shorter or taller then stock header? Does it fit OEM bottom engine cover with some space to spare or it's tight fit and any bump to engine cover will impact header too?
Bottom clearance is big topic for me due to quality of roads nearby.

Dzmitry · 08-24-2020, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prezes_wojtek

To anyone who is using this header: What is header height vs stock header? Is it shorter or taller then stock header? Does it fit OEM bottom engine cover with some space to spare or it's tight fit and any bump to engine cover will impact header too?
Bottom clearance is big topic for me due to quality of roads nearby.

It seems to vary by person. Many have no issues with the header clearing the engine cover, while for some, it touches. It has become well known that it is recommended to hammer out a couple spots on the cover for the header to have no clearance issues. I did this to be sure before the header install, and never had any problems to begin with.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show....php?p=3042220
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96358

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11-01-2018, 02:31 AM	#827
CSG Mike Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: S2000 CR Location: Orange County Posts: 14,564 Thanks: 8,942 Thanked 14,213 Times in 6,856 Posts Mentioned: 970 Post(s)	Another graph, with the graphs scaled identically but translated to best-fit stock torque curves, so that torque gains against stock can be compared.

05-15-2019, 12:08 AM	#828
DeliciousTuning PhoneFlash by EcuTeK Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Edelbrock Equipped - Subaru BRZ Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,611 Thanks: 309 Thanked 1,683 Times in 581 Posts Mentioned: 403 Post(s)	We have released new NA Stage 1,2 and ACE tunes for the BRZ/86/FRS. (Including Flex Fuel Updates) Version 12.00 for Stage 1 Version 13.00 for Stage 2 Version 14.00 for Stage 2 + ACE header. Improvements include - New Cam Table Profiles - New Fuel Table Adjustments, - New Timing Advance Tables - New DI/PI control mechanism We also have added on the EcuTeK ECUConnect - Custom MAF Trim % - Custom WOT Timing % - Custom Traction Control % (NA Tunes) - Custom Boost Pressure Set Point (Flash & Go Tunes) - Optional Pops % Bangs Switch - Optional Crackle Slider RaceROM Maps Have Also Changes - Custom Race Throttle Spec (tested for immediate response) - Improved Autoblip (for those that like that option) - New Valet features Regards, William Knose Delicious Tuning

05-15-2019, 01:01 AM	#829
conehead Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Drives: RS 2.0 Location: Phoenix Posts: 135 Thanks: 30 Thanked 62 Times in 39 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s)	Wow, glad I found this thread. This car was begging for a 4-2-1 header. UEL was a half assed bandaid for the torque dip.

05-15-2019, 04:39 PM	#832
Breadman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Drives: 2017 BRZ w/PP Location: Pa Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 51 Thanked 302 Times in 225 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s)	so if my ace + flex tune is v11.x i guess i am very behind?

08-24-2020, 09:39 AM	#839
prezes_wojtek Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Drives: GT86 track usage Location: Poland Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	To anyone who is using this header: What is header height vs stock header? Is it shorter or taller then stock header? Does it fit OEM bottom engine cover with some space to spare or it's tight fit and any bump to engine cover will impact header too? Bottom clearance is big topic for me due to quality of roads nearby.

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