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Old 04-26-2019, 11:27 PM   #1
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Drivability

Folks. I've had a '15 MT since new. Like some others have noted the car can be a little rough shifting when driven in a 'leisurely" manner. Has anyone else noticed the dirvability of the car is enhanced when the nannies are in "full off" (double button press and hold) mode?

I swear it feels like the throttle control becomes more precise making it significantly easier to get the throttle tip in/clutch release perfect.

Anybody else, or is it another placebo effect?
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:40 PM   #2
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I find little to no difference when just driving casually.
@Ultramaroon you want to do your pedal dance spiel?
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I think it's a matter of mindset.


When driving "leisurely," we tend to gate, clutch, and throttle more lazily. When you're driving without your nannies, I'm guessing you're doing some spirited driving - you're shifting quickly and using higher revs.


In my personal experience, the car likes when your shifts are quick and precise. Extra revs also help smooth out shifts because it pulls you out of gears, keeping the car from bogging.


Practice shifting quickly and clutching quickly all the time. Pay attention to your position on the throttle pedal when you're shifting, too. Even a little bit of throttle before your clutch is all the way out will cause a lurch.



I think then you'll notice smoother "leisurely" driving.
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:57 PM   #4
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......….Anybody else, or is it another placebo effect?
That would be my guess. However, I don't really know - because - I don't dare turn the nannies off on my car -





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Nah. My beef is that even with the long press there is interference. There is already a difference between anything and long press but I've not noticed it in that manner. I just hate the nannies altogether.
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Old 04-27-2019, 12:12 PM   #6
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For what it's worth, I find that my '17 has two personalities: plenty of rev hang for slow shift when driving around the 2000 rpm range.

And then "Oh, you went over 3000? Instant throttle response for you! Better get going on that shift lever if you want to make it in time hehehe :P "
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That would be my guess. However, I don't really know - because - I don't dare turn the nannies off on my car -

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There's a nanny and grandpa joke here but I'm not putting it together at the moment. Wisdom vs age failure
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There's a nanny and grandpa joke here but I'm not putting it together at the moment. Wisdom vs age failure
Well, when this old boy drives his FR-S, he needs ALL of the electronic nannies, just to keep it on the road -


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There's a nanny and grandpa joke here but I'm not putting it together at the moment. Wisdom vs age failure
i don't blame him for choosing to keep the nannies turned on.
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i don't blame him for choosing to keep the nannies turned on.
Me either actually. I rarely turn them off. There are times when it needs to be done though, sometimes to increase the grin factor and others because the road surface is so rough that you can't drive otherwise like on dirt roads.
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i don't blame him for choosing to keep the nannies turned on.
Thanks!

Yep, long before electronic nannies, I was "drifting", back when many of you folks were still falling off your tricycles. But, we didn't call it "drifting", we called it "trying to maintain control on gravel roads when we were going too fast".





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Thanks guys. I'll keep putzing around with it.
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@humfrz Yeah you have to turn 'em off on dirt roads with this car otherwise the throttle is constantly being cut as it bounces around and that is beyond annoying.
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Before I got decent tires I did the long hold everytime I got in the car unless it was raining. With good tires I only turn it off to play or if I am about to jump into traffic from a side road and want to insure the TC doesn’t get me killed.

I’ve never noticed much of a throttle response different with the long hold though. I do however notice a big change in throttle response on E85 and the OTS 4.0 E85 tune. It doesn’t randomly ignore my blips anymore.
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