03-30-2019, 04:02 PM | #575 |
Benz Tech
Join Date: Dec 2018
Drives: 2017 BRZ Premium
Location: Oregon
Posts: 580
Thanks: 363
Thanked 562 Times in 308 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Seriously though. We’ve seen the picture of Toyota shops and their work areas. This is the shop I work in, I apologize about they floors, cleaner guy probably wasn’t around that day. We roll through work, all bays full all day long. Flat rate shop that breaks monthly records regularly. There’s supposed to be a difference between the dealer and Jimmy’s Muffler Express. Have some pride in what you do and kick ass. That’s the job. |
03-30-2019, 04:12 PM | #576 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 30,061
Thanks: 29,122
Thanked 32,202 Times in 16,572 Posts
Mentioned: 709 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
I noticed on the instructions and pictures someone posted, that it shows a calking gun being used to apply the sealant. As you know, and anyone else that has used a large calking gun, they are hard to control the flow of the material. I would suggest that the techs be supplied with a more precise application instrument, maybe with a "guide" at the tip - humfrz |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to humfrz For This Useful Post: | maslin (03-30-2019) |
03-30-2019, 04:18 PM | #577 | |
Benz Tech
Join Date: Dec 2018
Drives: 2017 BRZ Premium
Location: Oregon
Posts: 580
Thanks: 363
Thanked 562 Times in 308 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
The smaller tube stuck in a caulking gun never did me wrong. An actual caulk sized tube in a caulking gun would be even better. |
|
03-30-2019, 05:50 PM | #578 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 30,061
Thanks: 29,122
Thanked 32,202 Times in 16,572 Posts
Mentioned: 709 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
I have another idea for applying the sealant.
It appears to be more of an art than a mechanical thing. So, since women are usually more detailed and artistic, have one of the female employees (receptionist, secretary, parts clerk, billing) come out and apply the sealant. Just show her the pictures and stand back. Pay her $20 for getting her hands dirty. OK, I'm done (for the time being) being a arm chair mechanic. - humfrz |
03-30-2019, 08:27 PM | #579 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Drives: 2022 BRZ Limited Silver
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 2,533
Thanks: 882
Thanked 2,047 Times in 1,190 Posts
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
I had no problem controlling flow coming out of my Home Depot special caulk gun. You just have to care about what you are doing. Not saying there isn’t a better caulk gun though. I will say it is a hell of a lot easier to control the application with a caulk gun than it is with a standard squeeze tube.
|
03-30-2019, 08:48 PM | #580 |
Professional Mechanic
Join Date: Apr 2010
Drives: 2017 86 6MT Oceanic
Location: Quebec, Canada
Posts: 789
Thanks: 17
Thanked 633 Times in 371 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
It's easy to lay down a neat bead with an ordinary caulking gun, because it's not the gun that cuts the tip of the applicator, it's the user.
I don't cut the tips and work with the small orifice at the very tip, so my stuff comes out looking neat. This is an Audi Q5 2.0 TSI (CAEB) on which I did the head last summer (it was back last week with a seized steering u-joint). That little bead is all that squeezed out using a big caulking gun. |
The Following User Says Thank You to RZNT4R For This Useful Post: | humfrz (03-30-2019) |
03-30-2019, 09:34 PM | #581 | |
extra what?
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: a 13 e8h frs
Location: vantucky, wa
Posts: 32,087
Thanks: 52,530
Thanked 36,814 Times in 19,087 Posts
Mentioned: 1111 Post(s)
Tagged: 9 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
If not, what do you estimate to be the percentage of your peers whose work you generally deem sub par? I'm not necessarily talking about your coworkers. You may work with an exceptional team.
__________________
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Ultramaroon For This Useful Post: | humfrz (03-30-2019) |
03-30-2019, 09:53 PM | #582 |
Professional Mechanic
Join Date: Apr 2010
Drives: 2017 86 6MT Oceanic
Location: Quebec, Canada
Posts: 789
Thanks: 17
Thanked 633 Times in 371 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
I work in a rather... specific... environment. A small shop, we're just 4 people, one service advisor, the boss who does fast volume work, tires and a bit of body work, one low skill guy for the low skill jobs and I'm the main, handling the whole spectrum, from brakes to engine work. It's hard for me to trust my engine to anyone else on my team because I'm the only member of the team that does that
[An overly long tirade about finding good workers was here but has been deleted] From what I've seen, felt and heard from the grapevine, let's just say I'd be more comfortable doing my valve shims myself. |
The Following User Says Thank You to RZNT4R For This Useful Post: | Ultramaroon (03-30-2019) |
03-31-2019, 12:24 AM | #583 | |
Benz Tech
Join Date: Dec 2018
Drives: 2017 BRZ Premium
Location: Oregon
Posts: 580
Thanks: 363
Thanked 562 Times in 308 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
We have 10 guys, 2 are under two years in a shop, the rest of us are experienced. I’d trust myself and one other guy no questions asked. One other guy depending on his attitude for the day. Our DMS flags any car that comes back within 90 days. Two guys earn the vast majority of our 90 days. They both have a lot of years in the shop. The same guys work 8:30-5:00 and still flag reasonable hours, lots of corners cut. We’re on a strip with 4 other dealerships, lots of very young guys at the other shops. Every time my truck goes to Toyota I get a page full of no problem found. Super frustrating. |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to maslin For This Useful Post: | Tcoat (03-31-2019) |
04-01-2019, 12:53 PM | #584 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Drives: FRS
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 1,181
Thanks: 575
Thanked 291 Times in 216 Posts
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|
04-01-2019, 02:35 PM | #585 |
Dismember
Join Date: Mar 2013
Drives: 2013 Red Scion FR-S
Location: Castro Valley
Posts: 5,562
Thanks: 2,153
Thanked 4,002 Times in 2,157 Posts
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
|
Had the recall done. I just dropped off the car at the dealer. The foreman thinks it's maybe an exhaust rattle. Hopefully so.
__________________
|
04-01-2019, 03:15 PM | #586 |
Benz Tech
Join Date: Dec 2018
Drives: 2017 BRZ Premium
Location: Oregon
Posts: 580
Thanks: 363
Thanked 562 Times in 308 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Nothing listed on the NHTSA site. It appears to be an extension of Subarus Guaranteed Trade In Program, with an extra incentive for the inconvenience.
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/201...8V772-6375.pdf https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/201...8V772-6956.pdf Also found this in the Toyota FAQ "Q7: My vehicle has been modified with aftermarket (non-factory) components and my dealer says I should remove the modifications before the Safety Recall can be performed; is there anything I can do about this? A7: Some vehicles may be equipped with non-Toyota-approved parts and/or accessories that make it difficult or impossible for a dealer to install the remedy parts for this Safety Recall. Toyota does not recommend modifying vehicles and cannot evaluate how any aftermarket, non-Toyota-approved parts could affect a vehicle’s operation. That is why it is best to restore your vehicle to its original condition prior to the remedy being performed. Notwithstanding Toyota’s recommendation, some dealers may be willing to perform the Safety Recall remedy with the vehicle in its current modified condition. If your dealer is willing to do so, you may be charged for labor or parts costs not otherwise covered by Toyota's Safety Recall remedy. Toyota provides the specific remedy parts kit, necessary engine fluids and sealant, and covers 12.2 – 13.8 hours (depending upon vehicle configuration) of dealer labor expenses. You must pay any additional charges for parts or labor by the dealer which are the result of the vehicle’s non-Toyota-approved modifications. Toyota is not responsible for later performance problems your vehicle may have that are the result of the nonToyota-approved vehicle modifications." That last line is a CYA statement for sure. You agreed to this, sorry your engine blew up, but we told you. |
04-02-2019, 10:45 AM | #587 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: RAVEN
Location: LONDON ONTARIO
Posts: 788
Thanks: 86
Thanked 787 Times in 342 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Dealer keeps calling. I keep putting it off.
Curious what has better odds of failing the recall or the fix? |
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to NOHOME For This Useful Post: | alan.chalkley (04-02-2019), venturaII (04-02-2019) |
04-02-2019, 11:17 AM | #588 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2018
Drives: 13' Lightning Red Brz
Location: CT
Posts: 114
Thanks: 7
Thanked 52 Times in 36 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Another Major Update on my Vehicle.
Second dealership got the okay from Subaru of New England to repair my car under warranty for TSB 02/151-14R and when dropping my oil pan noticed there was a lot of RTV Sealant. They also asked if I had my headgaskets replaced when they did the recall in which I did. So now the second dealership who was not aware of any of this work has to reach back out to his reps in regards to this situation now. They are stating that the RTV may be causing oil starvation and now they are looking at a bigger issue than the TSB they were told to repair under. |
The Following User Says Thank You to Ichima For This Useful Post: | Gunman (04-02-2019) |
|
|
Tags |
brz, failure, frs, i cant even, j02, recall, so much glue |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Registry Thread: Failure After J02 Recall | DarkPira7e | Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB | 489 | 05-26-2023 02:46 PM |
Is the fad threads ruining our fad threads? | Andrew025 | Off-Topic Lounge [WARNING: NO POLITICS] | 12 | 10-04-2017 09:12 PM |
CV Joint Failure and Differential Failure | AreteAuto | Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB | 26 | 06-16-2015 05:18 PM |
BRZ or FRS (yes, another one of those threads) | lisaaaxo | FR-S / BRZ vs.... | 19 | 04-11-2015 02:44 PM |
Vs. threads.... | TwinscrollGT35R | FR-S / BRZ vs.... | 34 | 05-22-2012 08:21 PM |