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Tcoat · 03-23-2019, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

I get it! So it's getting a turbo?!1 GUYS HAY TCOTE CONFIRMED GUYS OVER HERR LOOK CONFIRMED 2021 TURBO FA20 BRZ DIT AWD ABS TS STI LIMITED with power sunroof.

Yeah I forgot about emissions. Honestly I'm happy enough if they just stay with the same NA fa20 and don't add power. I like building, not buying. The current car leaves a lot on the table in every direction, but is also amazing totally stock. They shouldn't have to change it, other than to keep from being stale.

LOL

Still no turbo!

soundman98 · 03-23-2019, 04:54 PM

I think it would be a riot if the instead of the dash pattern having ufo designs, it had turbo designs.

Jyn · 03-23-2019, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

The answer:

We are committed to the continued development and improvements of the FA24 DIT found in the 2019 Subaru Ascent.

Jyn · 03-23-2019, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

I never said anything about a turbo FA24.

If I was a betting person, I'd bet on an NA FA24 with a 7200-7500rpm redline, 247-253hp and 187-193lb-ft torque. Wrap that in a car that loses ~50kg and it'll feel like a next gen 86 without eclipsing the Supra.

Victorscp · 03-23-2019, 06:53 PM

watch its gonna have the same engine but with 5 more hp and stiffer lighter chassis and thats it... we should have a pool to see who is right on what the 2021 86 is gonna be

davesrave · 03-23-2019, 07:32 PM

Well, if it's not a turbo and not higher revving, then it must be a mild hybrid. No way they are going to plan an 86 for the next 7+ years and not add more power.

86MLR · 03-23-2019, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Victorscp

watch its gonna have the same engine but with 5 more hp and stiffer lighter chassis and thats it... we should have a pool to see who is right on what the 2021 86 is gonna be

2 bets

$2.00 on it's another refresh

$2.00 on it's discontinued

Tcoat · 03-23-2019, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by davesrave

Well, if it's not a turbo and not higher revving, then it must be a mild hybrid. No way they are going to plan an 86 for the next 7+ years and not add more power.

Why? They never were after power numbers.

davesrave · 03-23-2019, 07:47 PM

They were interested enough when they were designing it in the 2008s or so to give it 200 HP. The car world has evolved, and the trend is increased horsepower. Surely, they can't ignore that, nor their customers desires.

86MLR · 03-23-2019, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by davesrave

Well, if it's not a turbo and not higher revving, then it must be a mild hybrid. No way they are going to plan an 86 for the next 7+ years and not add more power.

Oh, another speculation

86 discontinued

Enter MR2

Or, Celica

As long as it is RWD and are available in manual they would definitely be on my short list.

...throw in that new 4cyl hybrid engine Toyota have been spruking about, a hard tuned version of what is in the corolla.

I would drop the Subaru partnership if I was Toyota, there has been quite a few issues, the valve spring fiasco is a marketing nighrmare.

Make Toyota great again

chaoskaze · 03-23-2019, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

I honestly would expect a higher revving engine before a turbo one. The car is consistently shunned in light of the s2000 having a nasty powerband stock for stock. That may be their next goal - stretching the powerband on track. It'd be a hell of a lot cheaper than redesigning everything around a peaky turbo

One can only hope..... 8k+ would be amazing...... but knpwing subaru.... the chance of that is lower then 10%.

Yoshoobaroo · 03-23-2019, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by davesrave

Well, if it's not a turbo and not higher revving, then it must be a mild hybrid. No way they are going to plan an 86 for the next 7+ years and not add more power.

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Why? They never were after power numbers.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21862

Tada had alluded in the past to a possible KERS hybrid system for the model's future. It could coincide with other FA/FB cars getting a KERS mild hybrid setup. Eventually all ICE cars will need electric assistance to meet emissions, so maybe this is relatively low hanging fruit?

DarkPira7e · 03-23-2019, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by davesrave

They were interested enough when they were designing it in the 2008s or so to give it 200 HP. The car world has evolved, and the trend is increased horsepower. Surely, they can't ignore that, nor their customers desires.

How much he does the 2019 Mazda Miata make?

PetrolioBenzina · 03-23-2019, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Yep there are loads on the drawing board but they are still caught up on some things.
Removing emissions with cats is great but they need to get to a point where there are fewer emissions to start with.

I love the PZEV badge on my wife's Impreza. "Partial zero emissions" what a nice term!

My 86 is a TZEV (Total Zero Emissions Vehicle) when it isn't running, just like that feel-good moronic PZEV.

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