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03-13-2019, 09:56 PM | #15 | |
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Potential protest impacts of avoiding valve spring recall?
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Are any recalls mandatory unless you live in Cali? Also, are you sure you don’t have the rule backwards? Wouldn’t it make more since to be able to protest someone if they voluntarily modified their car vs being forced to modify their car. I really don’t see there being grounds for a protest either way. The springs haven’t been upgraded they are simply swapping defective springs with new springs. Same part numbers as the original springs. |
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Remember, this isn't about valve springs except for this platform. It's about recalls, which could cover nearly anything. If it's mandatory, only the updated part is legal.
The rules don't attempt to differentiate based on whether it's a performance improvement or not, or anything else. If it's an optional recall, ANY of the parts are legal. No grounds for protest at all.
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How many weenie protests have happened due to the Takata airbag recall?
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You could always email Doug Gill.
Personally, I don't have a '13, but I'd have less than zero concerns about someone wanting to post a bond to tear down my engine because of valve springs prone to failure. |
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I don't think any recall is "mandatory". They can't hunt you down and make you get the work done. My understanding is California requires emissions recalls to be performed, but not all recalls. The valve spring is considered an emissions recall, hence the issue.
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OK, time for "fun with rulebooks" :-)
It was my understanding that the SSC rules were "stand alone", (Section 20), and the quote from the rulebook was from section 13, which is not a mandatory section. Hence, the rule from section 13 does not apply. Yeah, I know, "Send a note to Doug." :-) Mike P |
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You won't be able to renew your registration in California without first having the recall performed.
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Looking at the rulebook and don't see anything.
Are we talking about the damaged parts line? So if your valve spring shatters and you blow up, you're blown up car isn't legal. Or the superseded line? I'd read that to mean original or superseded part. Otherwise, we'd have to constantly check parts catalogs before every event and replace fasteners/etc as the manufacturer runs out of stock. |
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It won't come up until the car needs to go in for smog certification and it will fail the smog check because of a note in the system. For 2013 cars the earliest that will happen is April of 2020. And even then, lots of empty threats and little follow through because shits expensive yo. But not at all relevant to this thread which is pretty ridiculous. Can it happen? Yes. Will it happen? Probably not. Will the guy who tries this become a laughingstock? Probably. |
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For example, there is a recall for an inappropriate page in the manual, would that keep you from registering? (Yes, I realize this is for Southeast Toyota only so not applicable to CA, unless you take the car there, but as an example)
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Local events will tell you to pound sand if you try it but for a national event if someone is willing to put up the money to have your engine torn down then you can either forfeit or concede to it happening. If found to be illegal you're on the hook for your car. If not, the person who protested you is on the hook for putting it back together and paying for the work. From the 2018 rules for you: Quote:
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This is silly. Who gives a shit? Nobody with a brain would protest you over this and a PC would likely toss your dumbass protest.
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