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Old 07-13-2012, 08:13 PM   #43
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So far this is the only place Ive found it for sale:

http://www.carid.com/2013-subaru-brz...ke-917139.html
Careful with that product listed on carid, I just chatted with them for verification and they claim its a completely different product than what was developed. The rep said it was a CAI without heatshield available in polish and black, not the wrinkle black. They also claim its "In stock" which cannot be true as Injen reported they haven't built them yet.

I looked into this so intently because I placed my order with autoanything earlier for $420 lol who actually made sense and called Injen to verify before placing the order.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:49 PM   #44
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Someone has it listed on eBay already too. Titan Motorsports eBay Link

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Ehh there's a loss of hp/tq in the <4k RPM range compared to stock. Probably because it takes awhile for air to pick up speed in that massive piping. Gains on the top end are great but in everyday driving situations people should consider the car will feel more powerful with the stock intake box.

Also, it sucks that this can only be measured on a static dyno. In addition to the open hood remark, there's no mass of air moving with real world velocity into the fascia. The missing variable of external fluid dynamics may yield different results.

But it does make for a monstrous centerpiece (raising center of gravity up a microscopic hair?) above all the low-mounted components in the engine bay.
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hmmm, I thought it was actually going to be a CAI :-/
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hmmm, I thought it was actually going to be a CAI :-/
CAIs were losing power, actually. SRIs actually ended up generating more power, for some reason. The BRZ seems to like hotter air. /shrug
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CAIs were losing power, actually. SRIs actually ended up generating more power, for some reason. The BRZ seems to like hotter air. /shrug
Any links to that source? I'm curious to read it.
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Any links to that source? I'm curious to read it.
I'm just going off of what Injen told me and the fact that Accelerated Performance was able to make the most gains with a SRI, as well.

It was in his intake thread on here, not sure where it is now.

EDIT: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showpost.php?p=248570

In this thread he talks about how the CAI had a lot of compromises with it.

I, too, prefer CAIs, but this is working well for now.
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any updates on the intake? pricing? availability?
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any updates on the intake? pricing? availability?
As far as I know, Injen is the manufacturer and doesn't directly sell the intakes. Orders should be placed through a retailer. I found this page on their site: http://www.injen.com/docs/injen/wheretobuy.asp

Online retailers:
http://www.injen.com/docs/other/injenonline.asp?SC=1

Edit: It looks to be around 300 or so, based upon a few pages I saw, like http://www.autoanything.com/air-inta...0A3490247.aspx
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As far as I know, Injen is the manufacturer and doesn't directly sell the intakes. Orders should be placed through a retailer. I found this page on their site: http://www.injen.com/docs/injen/wheretobuy.asp

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http://www.injen.com/docs/other/injenonline.asp?SC=1

Edit: It looks to be around 300 or so, based upon a few pages I saw, like http://www.autoanything.com/air-inta...0A3490247.aspx
i bought from the autoanything link, was $273 shipped with their HEAT10 promo. i think that promo ends today though
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:44 PM   #53
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Ehh there's a loss of hp/tq in the <4k RPM range compared to stock. Probably because it takes awhile for air to pick up speed in that massive piping. Gains on the top end are great but in everyday driving situations people should consider the car will feel more powerful with the stock intake box.

Also, it sucks that this can only be measured on a static dyno. In addition to the open hood remark, there's no mass of air moving with real world velocity into the fascia. The missing variable of external fluid dynamics may yield different results.

But it does make for a monstrous centerpiece (raising center of gravity up a microscopic hair?) above all the low-mounted components in the engine bay.
Agreed that static dynos leave a bit to be desired. We need to gang up and convince AEM to make one of these for the FR-S/BRZ/GT-86, at least enough of them so that developers can get accurate on-the-road numbers:

http://www.aemelectronics.com/dyno-s...hicle-dyno-73/
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well, I just ordered one for shits and giggles.
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From experience with owning a 7th gen Celica, AEM and INJEN have been the primary CAI leaders for this car.

AEM provided a better solution for an un-tuned car without the Apexi Power-FC and provided better low down power with less power at high revs.

INJEN however provided the most power up top and also benefited more from a tune. It however had less power down in the low RPM's.

This attributed to the fact that the piping size of the AEM was smaller whereas the INJEN was bigger. I guess if you were to include more mods in the future such as full exhaust and tuning, this would be the better option in the end.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:26 PM   #56
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I owned an AEM intake for my old Lancer. The quality was solid but this Injen intake looks amazing. Between that and the fact that I've not seen or heard a word about AEM developing one for this car makes me lean towards Injen. The price is pretty solid as well.
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