(PSA) If you're considering a BRZ I personally don't recommend it

[Dadhawk]

@runfrodorun, I've re-read your OP twice now. Assuming you are still here and want some advice from a random dude on the Internet, here you go...

It's time to sell the car and move on. You are obviously not happy with it, or the service you have been getting from Subaru. In addition, at this point no matter what Subaru does you are not going to be happy with the results. Life is too short for that aggravation.

Obviously, based on the fact that the transmission was replaced, you were having some level of issues. Every car model that has ever been produced, no matter how stellar, has individual cars that have issues. That doesn't mean they all do, but the only one that matters is the one you are driving. If it were me (and I have done this) I would sell or trade the car, get something different, and move on. I might write the dealership and Subaru to let them know my dissatisfaction and why I'll never be buying one of their cars again, or I might just silently slip away as a customer, it just depends on my mood.

You shouldn't have any issue ridding yourself of the car, given it is at about 50K miles. Yes you may lose some money in the deal so you'll have to decide if its worth it to you. That said the minute you bought a car you signed up to lose money on it, that's just the way it works.

Your only other alternatives are 1) to continue to fight the good fight, shopping for a dealer willing to fix it, or going to Subaru corporate, but it looks like you've exhausted that avenue. Given you are approaching the drivetrain warranty, I'm guessing you have run out of road on that one 2) pay to have the problem fix.

I suppose option 3) is to live with it.

As far as the fuel pump, realize that not everyone had the issue, and in the end it isn't even really an issue, as the pump was functioning fine, it was just noisy.

[ScoobsMcGee]

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh

what's this concern about HTTPS?

The real concern with no HTTPS is that any data is transmitted across the internet in plain text, so if someone where to intercept it, they could read whatever you send. Use a password for this site which is unique to this site and unlike any other passwords (don't just use a usual password with a different number after it or something like that), and don't PM any sensitive info (e.g. credit card numbers). Other than that, post until your heart's content.

[weederr33]

My 2017 BRZ does not have any transmission issues as of 22500 miles. In fact, it's a godsend from my 13 where I had to replace the TOB 3x.

[Leonardo]

OP, I am sorry that you have had a bad time with your car. After owning over 30 cars, I can tell you: Not all cars are good cars. Even buying a new car will not guarantee that it is good.(though generally these days it will be) Additionally, some cars seem to have bad luck. My S2000 that I had for two years, spent one of those years in the shop.


I agree with @Dadhawk - "It's time to sell the car and move on."


I have owned my 2013 for 6 years now and have put 76,000 miles on it. I have only had coilpack #1 fail on me.


Better luck with your next vehicle.

[Swabodda]

I keep seeing references to the 2017 transmission in the comments but doesn't OP have a 2013?

I think that video he posted was just for illustrative purposes. It's a '17 in the video with ~500km. OP says he has a little shy of 50k miles.

At any rate, this being my first MT car and only having ~1400 miles under my belt I can't add too much concerning operability since I just don't have the experience to do so. That being said, even in learning to drive it I've not once had any grinding.

The fiasco with the dealership seems odd to me, though. OP should be minimum 25 y.o. based on 9 years of driving a manual. I don't see the issue with the loaner car when it comes to their age, especially considering that most dealerships these days have what amounts to a, basically, separate entity that rents and loans cars out to the customers of the dealership. There's obviously another side to this story but I doubt we will ever hear it.

I bet this guy posts a lot of Yelp reviews, though... Just a hunch.

[DarkPira7e]

My car has been through a flooding that granted it a salvage title, it's been through 50k miles of Vermont weather, I shift frequently without using the clutch. My 4th gear -used- to grind at high rpm shifts. 3 motul300 fluid changes later it doesn't bark, the little insecurities it expressed when I'd shift from 1st to second at -16F have ceased, reverse still let's me engage while I'm rolling forward. I'm completely catless with stock catback and the car is quiet on the inside.

I think the consensus here might be to try something else. Go back to a BMW, they're pretty cheap used and you're already familiar with them. Not trying to be rude, but maybe the trauma you've experienced will always keep you from enjoying it, and like a girlfriend that has cheated on you, it may be easier to say goodbye than to trust?

Also, in the video, there's a grind at 4:19. The only time I've had grind is if I'm not putting effort into a shift. At this point in the video, they've got two fingers on the shifter and lazily schmooze the shifter into second. This could also be due to not having the clutch pedal down completely

[radroach]

I'm with OP. Dealer support for this car is terrible. Reminder they denied warranty clIms for transmission fixes while throwout bearings we're practically melting in this car. I can't help but feel entitled so at least some compensation for these parts that fail prematurely, wearing the car down.

Inb4 boomers triggered by the word entitled.

One time a dealership service writer refused to change my transmission fluid at 35k miles because "fluid was good for the life of the vehicle". was literally wanting to pay for one and she denied it. That's the level of competence/ service we have to deal with.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by radroach

I'm with OP. Dealer support for this car is terrible. Reminder they denied warranty clIms for transmission fixes while throwout bearings we're practically melting in this car. I can't help but feel entitled so at least some compensation for these parts that fail prematurely, wearing the car down.

Inb4 boomers triggered by the word entitled.

One time a dealership service writer refused to change my transmission fluid at 35k miles because "fluid was good for the life of the vehicle". was literally wanting to pay for one and she denied it. That's the level of competence/ service we have to deal with.

Not all dealers are bad and not all are good. It is totally ludicrous to think they are all bad.
For every bad dealer there is a bad customer though. The customer is NOT always right.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

OK so I have sat through that painfully long video three times and did not see one single thing wrong with the 2nd gear shift. Nothing! There is no grinding at all and the "notchyness" is no different than most transmission mounted, RWD shifters out there. This is a directly linked shifter without any cables, long rods or other extensions to provide room for error. It is not some sloppy ass FWD Civic shifter and that is why it feels different to some.
As far as the comment of how load the car is I find it hilarious that you can hear the driver breathing while he is accelerating. Ohhh hearing damage must be the result.


I am with the dealer in saying there is no problem with that shifter.

I also watched that incredibly painful video and the whole time was waiting for a climax. I saw/heard nothing wrong in that video. I think comparing a mushy BMW box to a rifle bolt Japanese box is where the problem might be.

[ermax]

Also the site runs and has run SSL for a while now. Also, who cares if your super top secret posts about ours cars gets intercepted. Also, who cares if your user/password is intercepted. I assume no one actually uses the same password here as they do their bank or any other website for that matter.

[ScoobsMcGee]

Originally Posted by radroach

I'm with OP. Dealer support for this car is terrible. Reminder they denied warranty clIms for transmission fixes while throwout bearings we're practically melting in this car. I can't help but feel entitled so at least some compensation for these parts that fail prematurely, wearing the car down.

Inb4 boomers triggered by the word entitled.

One time a dealership service writer refused to change my transmission fluid at 35k miles because "fluid was good for the life of the vehicle". was literally wanting to pay for one and she denied it. That's the level of competence/ service we have to deal with.

While neither of us speak for all owners, I will say that my dealership experience has been quite the opposite. I've never had an issue with them refusing to perform service I've requested, and they've called me about fixing items under warranty I didn't even complain about. Cosmetic issues on the interior of the car. I'm pretty sure that has more to do with the dealership than the brand or car.

Also, while I'm way too young to be considered a boomer, no you're not entitled to any form of compensation for having to make use of the warranty on your car. The only thing the company is obliged to do is honor the warranty, so you don't have to pay for the repairs out of pocket.

As for the transmission, 48,000 fairly abusive miles on my 2015 and absolutely no issues. I will say that the car did not like going into 2nd at low RPM when the transmission was cold when I first got it. To the point where I would double clutch to get it to engage without feeling like I would break something. After a few thousand miles it loosened up quite a bit, and after an oil change it completely went away. Now it is to the point where I kind of forgot what it was like until this thread came up.

[ScoobsMcGee]

Originally Posted by ermax

I assume no one actually uses the same password here as they do their bank or any other website for that matter.

As an Information Security Analyst I feel comfortable saying that is a terrible assumption to make. Many people use the same password for every website they visit, even when explicitly warned not to.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by ScoobsMcGee

As an Information Security Analyst I feel comfortable saying that is a terrible assumption to make. Many people use the same password for every website they visit, even when explicitly warned not to.

Yes I know it's a terrible assumption.. I was being a smart ass more than anything.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by ScoobsMcGee

As an Information Security Analyst I feel comfortable saying that is a terrible assumption to make. Many people use the same password for every website they visit, even when explicitly warned not to.

I'm guilty... I think, all the forum user name and pw is same. Other important accounts are all different (including user name).