Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll.

[Jayde]

Originally Posted by Chewie4299

I just had my fuel light go on for the first time. I filled up before that ever happened at Mobil or BP the last 3 times.

This time I went to Shell. Seems like the car really runs better on Shell. I'm certain that this is completely a placebo effect as I always laughed quietly to myself when someone says something like that but I HAVE to believe it because I spent 4.15/gal when the Mobil station 20 yards away was charging 3.61/gal for 93.

Fortunately my crickets are still dead but I'm certain there's still enough 2 stroke oil left in the gas to do that on its own. No way to really attribute this to the gas.

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Let us know how it is!

I have a gas station right next to my work that just recently became a Shell station, so I'm tempted to try it.

[Chewie4299]

Originally Posted by Jayde

Let us know how it is!

I have a gas station right next to my work that just recently became a Shell station, so I'm tempted to try it.

Oh I'm certain its high quality gas. I just don't believe that it's 15% better than Mobil considering that's how much more I paid.

I think all the gas in CT is 10% ethanol. So if that is linked to the chirping then Subayota is my only hope.

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[Jayde]

Originally Posted by Chewie4299

Oh I'm certain its high quality gas. I just don't believe that it's 15% better than Mobil considering that's how much more I paid.

I think all the gas in CT is 10% ethanol. So if that is linked to the chirping then Subayota is my only hope.

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That, or put some 2 stroke oil mix in your fuel.

[sierra]

Originally Posted by Chewie4299

Just added 2oz of 2 stroke oil to half a tank of gas.
It killed the crickets instantly and they were loud. Feels so good to drive the car without that stupid noise.
I hope toyobaru addresses this fuel pump noise and doesn't leave it unresolved.

At last!!!!!!

Did the engine feel any smoother, quieter apart from the chirping having stopped?
The comment to use marine 2T is a good one and a high performance low ash version if available.

Lots of apprehension from others afraid to add something specifically designed for the job but apparently having less concern for what's happening to the fuel pump and injectors as the washer breaks down.

[Chewie4299]

Originally Posted by sierra

At last!!!!!!

Did the engine feel any smoother, quieter apart from the chirping having stopped?
The comment to use marine 2T is a good one and a high performance low ash version if available.

Lots of apprehension from others afraid to add something specifically designed for the job but apparently having less concern for what's happening to the fuel pump and injectors as the washer breaks down.

It was crazy how fast the chirping went away with this addition. Mine was LOUD.

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[raphymartinez]

Has anyone tried Marvel Mystery oil? Should do the trick from other things I've read/heard about it. I'm gonna try it to see if it takes care of it.

[cobrabyte]

Originally Posted by raphymartinez

Has anyone tried Marvel Mystery oil? Should do the trick from other things I've read/heard about it. I'm gonna try it to see if it takes care of it.

Marvel did come to mind but I was thinking purely about cost-per-fillup. If this is going to be a regular thing, it may as well be cost effective. I believe it will cost about $0.50 per fillup using the Lucas 2-stroke oil I picked up.

You can get Marvel in those huge containers so maybe it's just as cost effective at that scale.

I'd be interested to learn whether it remedies the issue.

[Thunderchicken]

Has anyone went to the dealership pointed out your findings or at leased called they to put it on record that doing this does make the crickets go away then toyota can source out a product that they feel comfortable with and us the minimum standard.

[Z0rr0]

I do not believe that you guys should be "OK" with having to add anything to the fuel. There is an obvious problem, that Subaru/Toyota need to address.

[Hanzo]

Originally Posted by Z0rr0

I do not believe that you guys should be "OK" with having to add anything to the fuel. There is an obvious problem, that Subaru/Toyota need to address.

Agree but if there is a temporary fix that doesn't harm the engine/exhaust system it might be worth a try. The sound is very annoying.

[Chewie4299]

Originally Posted by Z0rr0

I do not believe that you guys should be "OK" with having to add anything to the fuel. There is an obvious problem, that Subaru/Toyota need to address.

I'm not satisfied with having to use 2 stroke oil. But it is preferable to suffering that chirping while waiting for a solution.

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[Thunderchicken]

Originally Posted by Z0rr0

I do not believe that you guys should be "OK" with having to add anything to the fuel. There is an obvious problem, that Subaru/Toyota need to address.

I agree that as a ower that you should just be able to follow the manual. But in-light of this sound that toyota and subaru change the maintanice required so that it keeps from expensive fixes down the road. If they find out that adding some 2 cycle oil to the tank every time you change the oil or something like that than you know that the motor is going to stay in working condition as long as possible.

My suggestion to the people who put the 2 cycle oil in that they note the mileage when they used and the milage when the noise returns and rinse and repeat so when you talk to the regional rep. They can pass the info on and find a more perminat solution that isn't costing us extra money cause it will be done when you get your oil changed or when you change you own oil if you follow what I'm saying.

[Fenrir]

Originally Posted by Thunderchicken

I agree that as a ower that you should just be able to follow the manual. But in-light of this sound that toyota and subaru change the maintanice required so that it keeps from expensive fixes down the road. If they find out that adding some 2 cycle oil to the tank every time you change the oil or something like that than you know that the motor is going to stay in working condition as long as possible.

My suggestion to the people who put the 2 cycle oil in that they note the mileage when they used and the milage when the noise returns and rinse and repeat so when you talk to the regional rep. They can pass the info on and find a more perminat solution that isn't costing us extra money cause it will be done when you get your oil changed or when you change you own oil if you follow what I'm saying.

Rotary owners have been putting 2-stroke oil in their gas tanks for 20+ years for similar reasons, and haven't got any sort of compensation or resolution from Mazda.

[Chewie4299]

I'm going to buy THIS (3.2oz Pennzoil 2-cycle oil bottle) and THIS (1gal of the same oil).

I'm going to carry the small bottle with me and add it to the tank every time I fill up and then I'll refill it at home. 3.2oz bottle gets you roughly 500:1 in our 13.2gal tank. I'm going to try to run my tank down to the light but not much further before filling up so I'll keep the bottle about 2/3 to 4/5 full as there will already be some in the tank.

I've been researching it and using quality 2-cycle oil looks like it will do no harm to a 4-cycle engine and will actually only serve to prolong the life of the engine by ensuring lubrication every cycle. Some even claim it can help gas mileage albeit minimally.

I realize, again, that having to do this is absurd. But I've worked out the math and using ~3oz of that gallon jug at each fill up should cost $0.40. This is WELL worth not having to deal with that chirping until they fix it.

Can anyone confirm hearing that Toyota/Subaru are addressing this? It may have been mentioned in this thread and even though I've read it all I cannot recall.