4th gen ND Mazda MX-5 Miata

[SuperTom]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Yea, really hoping to see some solid 2nd gen GT86 info soon, hoping that the target will at least be the new miatas HP/weight. But something tells me they won't start sending test mules out until the Supra is on the streets. I just hope it isn't cancelled with how quiet they've been on the 86/BRZ front.

Not really counting on them at this point to up the ante with Mazda as they will probably move on and focus on the Supra.


Mad that Toyburu with the TS and Sti editions just added more weight with bracings and wings and did nothing to address power/weight

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Ricepuddin

Not going to lie, if my head didn't stick out over the windshield I would have got a Miata over the BRZ

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I'd probably have an ND if it came out 2 years earlier... Then again, I'd probably be wishing it had more cargo space and kicking myself for not getting the FRS instead lol.

[Ricepuddin]

Originally Posted by Spuds

I'd probably have an ND if it came out 2 years earlier... Then again, I'd probably be wishing it had more cargo space and kicking myself for not getting the FRS instead lol.

If I need room I just take my wife's 4runner, also Hawaii so a drop top could be nice

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[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

did you mean coupe?



My argument is that there isn't a lighter 4 seat RWD car out there than the twins. One of the main reasons the Miata is lighter is because it's so tiny. The wheelbase on the BRZ is 10 inches longer. The Miata is a bit lower and narrower, and just over 12 inches shorter.

Mazda probably will never make a 2+2 Miata (I wish they would), but if they did, I'd bet the weight would be similar to the BRZ

Yeah couple. Haha.

There are always qualifying and theoretical points to make but that always boils down to "things would be different if they were different"

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

My argument is that there isn't a lighter 4 seat RWD car out there than the twins. One of the main reasons the Miata is lighter is because it's so tiny. The wheelbase on the BRZ is 10 inches longer. The Miata is a bit lower and narrower, and just over 12 inches shorter.

Mazda probably will never make a 2+2 Miata (I wish they would), but if they did, I'd bet the weight would be similar to the BRZ

I would rather Toyobaru made a 2-seat version of the 86. Delete rear seats, shove the rear wheels forward ~10" and make it a hatchback, you could easily have a 50/50 ~2600-lb fixed-roof sports car with way more utility than a Miata. Boom, modern 240Z. Toyota could call their version the 2000GT...

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by SuperTom

Mad that Toyburu with the TS and Sti editions just added more weight with bracings and wings and did nothing to address power/weight

There was already the RA Racing trim in Japan. They figured most Americans are overweight anyway by Japanese standard, otherwise they would have included some body hugging Recaros.




Toyota and Subaru / STI would never know how to do a true lightweight sports car, they are too obsessed with trying to beat the Germans.

[NARFALICIOUS]

Originally Posted by ZDan

I would rather Toyobaru made a 2-seat version of the 86. Delete rear seats, shove the rear wheels forward ~10" and make it a hatchback, you could easily have a 50/50 ~2600-lb fixed-roof sports car with way more utility than a Miata. Boom, modern 240Z. Toyota could call their version the 2000GT...

10" shorter wheelbase would perhaps make the overall length 10" shorter as well. I would guess it'd be closer to 2500lb without the rear seatbelts, rear seats, less body metal, shorter driveshaft, shorter exhaust, shorter fuel lines.

I would splooge for this.

[SuperTom]

Originally Posted by krayzie

There was already the RA Racing trim in Japan. They figured most Americans are overweight anyway by Japanese standard, otherwise they would have included some body hugging Recaros.




Toyota and Subaru / STI would never know how to do a true lightweight sports car, they are too obsessed with trying to beat the Germans.

Toyota just now announced a GR package for the 86. guess what all its adds is more rice wings front spoilers ect and jacks the price and weight up

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by ZDan

Toyota could call their version the 2000GT...

Or maybe the Starlet.

[unhappymeal]

Originally Posted by fatoni

Yeah couple. Haha.

There are always qualifying and theoretical points to make but that always boils down to "things would be different if they were different"

I'm not so sure. There's like a 400 lb weight difference the two. That's a lot, even if you stretch the wheel base 12 inches.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by unhappymeal

I'm not so sure. There's like a 400 lb weight difference the two. That's a lot, even if you stretch the wheel base 12 inches.

yeah well im just giving the counter argument the benefit of the doubt.

[chaoskaze]

Hopefully there is something new,

MY friend in taiwan said he couldn't order a 2019 BRZ & regional manager in taiwan say they have to wait till new info is released september this year.......>.> *it's asia so 2019 means 2019 not 2018. XD

Fingers crossed......or discountinue the twin like Fist & FoST XD

[SuperTom]

Man our cars are soo toast. Jalopnik article says they can run on 87 octane. I can see a simple tune on 93 octane and they will be close to 200hp on a 2400lb chassis

https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-mazda-...fue-1827691616

[unhappymeal]

Originally Posted by SuperTom

Man our cars are soo toast. Jalopnik article says they can run on 87 octane. I can see a simple tune on 93 octane and they will be close to 200hp on a 2400lb chassis

https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-mazda-...fue-1827691616

I have a ND Miata and it definitely pulls timing on 87 octane. The rated horsepower is on 91 octane. I'll try to dig up the post from Miata.net.