Oil recommendation for short driving distance in freezing conditions - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

NordicGT86 · 04-07-2018, 07:08 PM

Do you any oil 0W-20 with additive package orientated to short distance driving (16 km) in extreme cold weather conditions -20°C ? The oil must manage around 3000 km just the winter season.

Currently using Castrol Edge.

I appreciate any recommendation

NoHaveMSG · 04-07-2018, 07:47 PM

The issue with short drives is temperature. Need to see above 200F to boil the moisture out of it.

NordicGT86 · 04-07-2018, 07:55 PM

That's right. Is there any oil with additives for this application ? High humidity, gasoline in the oil due to idle operation this kind of severe condition.

Stang70Fastback · 04-07-2018, 08:14 PM

An occasional longer drive would be your best option, IMHO. Even if it's just once a week. A drive to get up to temp for a little bit to allow it to burn off excess moisture.

venturaII · 04-07-2018, 10:05 PM

The general rule of thumb is that your oil needs to be at full operating temp for ~20 min for all normal amounts of condensation/fuel/contaminants to be removed. Obviously that's a pretty loose number, but you get the idea. As mentioned, take your car for a nice ride on the weekends and you should be good to go. It will easily survive 3000km under those conditions.

humfrz · 04-07-2018, 11:13 PM

You're probably best off just to deal with it the old fashioned way ..... take a longer drive every now and then (as mentioned) and change the oil more often.

Even if I found an oil that claimed that it could absorb fuel/moisture/contaminates ..... I wouldn't believe it.

humfrz

NordicGT86 · 04-08-2018, 08:45 AM

Thanks for your answers!

It seems that the best option is to have the Sunday coffee at a service station 20 minutes away.

Cheers

FLYFISHR · 04-08-2018, 10:46 AM

I had the same concerns about my short drive to work so I installed the forester oil cooler hooked up through the throttle body that helped heat the oil quicker in the winter months and still controlled high temps at the track during the summer.

GrantedTaken · 04-08-2018, 10:54 AM

You're good

nikitopo · 04-08-2018, 11:24 AM

I use a 5W30 oil in these temperatures without issues.

NordicGT86 · 04-08-2018, 12:40 PM

The question was in the direction of the additive package. Some oils are focus on provide better protection with hight load/temperatures or high millage. Given the number of cars working in these severe conditions, short commuting. Maybe there are oils for providing better protection in short distances, moisture, idle operation.

reeves · 04-08-2018, 01:48 PM

Honestly, you're in a great situation.. You have an excuse to drive your car for longer than you need to, and you'll have to keep the revs up to get that oil cooking inside your engine.

Good luck on accomplishing those 2 things!

NordicGT86 · 04-08-2018, 03:05 PM

Even better. The trip is on frozen roads and friction tires ;-)

NoHaveMSG · 04-08-2018, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NordicGT86

The question was in the direction of the additive package. Some oils are focus on provide better protection with hight load/temperatures or high millage. Given the number of cars working in these severe conditions, short commuting. Maybe there are oils for providing better protection in short distances, moisture, idle operation.

In this case, there isn't one.

04-07-2018, 07:08 PM	#1
NordicGT86 Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Drives: GT86 Location: Sweden Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Oil recommendation for short driving distance in freezing conditions Do you any oil 0W-20 with additive package orientated to short distance driving (16 km) in extreme cold weather conditions -20°C ? The oil must manage around 3000 km just the winter season. Currently using Castrol Edge. I appreciate any recommendation

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NordicGT86 Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Drives: GT86 Location: Sweden Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for your answers! It seems that the best option is to have the Sunday coffee at a service station 20 minutes away. Cheers Last edited by NordicGT86; 04-08-2018 at 12:42 PM.

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FLYFISHR Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 2014 BR"ZED" Sport-tech DGM MT Location: GTA CANADA Posts: 724 Thanks: 465 Thanked 254 Times in 163 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	I had the same concerns about my short drive to work so I installed the forester oil cooler hooked up through the throttle body that helped heat the oil quicker in the winter months and still controlled high temps at the track during the summer. __________________ Old enough to know better but young enough to do it again

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NordicGT86 Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Drives: GT86 Location: Sweden Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's right. Is there any oil with additives for this application ? High humidity, gasoline in the oil due to idle operation this kind of severe condition.

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nikitopo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '15 BRZ RA Location: Greece Posts: 3,787 Thanks: 2,417 Thanked 1,944 Times in 1,261 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I use a 5W30 oil in these temperatures without issues.

04-08-2018, 12:40 PM	#11
NordicGT86 Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Drives: GT86 Location: Sweden Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The question was in the direction of the additive package. Some oils are focus on provide better protection with hight load/temperatures or high millage. Given the number of cars working in these severe conditions, short commuting. Maybe there are oils for providing better protection in short distances, moisture, idle operation.

04-08-2018, 01:48 PM	#12
reeves Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: ATL, GA Posts: 1,021 Thanks: 289 Thanked 397 Times in 265 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Honestly, you're in a great situation.. You have an excuse to drive your car for longer than you need to, and you'll have to keep the revs up to get that oil cooking inside your engine. Good luck on accomplishing those 2 things!

04-08-2018, 03:05 PM	#13
NordicGT86 Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Drives: GT86 Location: Sweden Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Even better. The trip is on frozen roads and friction tires ;-)

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