2nd gear cold start problem - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

eddwvrd · 03-30-2018, 07:34 PM

Has anybody experienced their 2nd gear making a clunk/metal noise? Everytime i cold start my car until it warms up and drive it first thing in the morning its kinda hard to shift it to 2nd gear and makes that clunk/metal noise(which is kinda embarrassing when people hear it and be like oh this dude is new to stick shift/irritating. But after a few minutes of driving the 2nd gear is smooth to shift and doesnt make that sound. Idk whats the problem but im guessing i should change the transmission and differential fluid? I already complain this to the dealer but the mechanic said it was normal. Anybody knows how to fix this problem?

FryinBerries · 03-30-2018, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eddwvrd

Has anybody experienced their 2nd gear making a clunk/metal noise? Everytime i cold start my car until it warms up and drive it first thing in the morning its kinda hard to shift it to 2nd gear and makes that clunk/metal noise(which is kinda embarrassing when people hear it and be like oh this dude is new to stick shift/irritating. But after a few minutes of driving the 2nd gear is smooth to shift and doesnt make that sound. Idk whats the problem but im guessing i should change the transmission and differential fluid? I already complain this to the dealer but the mechanic said it was normal. Anybody knows how to fix this problem?

Mine does this sometimes too. Not sure of the solution. I have a brand new transmission too

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Beachin86 · 03-30-2018, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eddwvrd

Has anybody experienced their 2nd gear making a clunk/metal noise? Everytime i cold start my car until it warms up and drive it first thing in the morning its kinda hard to shift it to 2nd gear and makes that clunk/metal noise(which is kinda embarrassing when people hear it and be like oh this dude is new to stick shift/irritating. But after a few minutes of driving the 2nd gear is smooth to shift and doesnt make that sound. Idk whats the problem but im guessing i should change the transmission and differential fluid? I already complain this to the dealer but the mechanic said it was normal. Anybody knows how to fix this problem?

This car is known for being hard to shift first/second gear when cold. Completely normal. I can't even shift into second if my RPMs are below 4k when cold.

As for the metal/clunky noise you're hearing: If it sounds like a heavy "thunk" coming from the rear when you shift into first, then that's normal as well. If it's more of a metal grindy noise, that could be a transmission problem.

Edit: Just re-read your post and saw that you hear when shifting into second, which I can't comment on.

What's your mileage? How do you use your car? Hard driving/track or daily drive?

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whataboutbob · 03-30-2018, 07:53 PM

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Decep · 03-30-2018, 07:53 PM

upshift no. downshift, i could force it but i rather double clutch.

eddwvrd · 03-30-2018, 08:02 PM

@Beachin86 the has 35,000 miles when i bought it from toyota and right now 37-38,000 i think. Yeah it makes that “thunk” sound. Did you by any chance change your transmission fluid? Also im wondering why my friends brz is diffirent from mine like shifting the gear is much shorter and pressing the clutch to the floor is light and shorter too while my frs kinda has a travel when pressing the clutch and a bit hard which is normal to me loll

Impureclient · 03-30-2018, 08:12 PM

Starting in here might help:
Engine, Exhaust, Transmission - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8

or

Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=72

humfrz · 03-30-2018, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eddwvrd

Has anybody experienced their 2nd gear making a clunk/metal noise? Everytime i cold start my car until it warms up and drive it first thing in the morning its kinda hard to shift it to 2nd gear and makes that clunk/metal noise(which is kinda embarrassing when people hear it and be like oh this dude is new to stick shift/irritating. But after a few minutes of driving the 2nd gear is smooth to shift and doesnt make that sound. Idk whats the problem but im guessing i should change the transmission and differential fluid? I already complain this to the dealer but the mechanic said it was normal. Anybody knows how to fix this problem?

Yep, as others have pointed out, it's most likely the nature of the beast.

As your mechanic says "it's normal".

Some folks have had some luck by changing the transmission fluid.

I suggest you just let the transmission warm up a bit before you start driving ....... or just be patient with the 1-2 gear shift.

humfrz

Spuds · 03-30-2018, 09:01 PM

New game: try to break the world record for the most instances of the word 'Normal' in a single thread. I see we are off to a good start.

My contribution: It's normal.

shellslinger · 03-30-2018, 09:02 PM

I've been using Motul transmission fluid for the past 3 - 4 years and never really experienced that 2nd gear clunk after switching out the factory fluid. When I was using factory transmission fluid it would get that clunk when it was cold.

Ultramaroon · 03-30-2018, 10:10 PM

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Anybody knows how to fix this problem?

Master the quick 1-2 flick for minimum force.
Master double-clutching your way through missed/down shifts.

Getting smooth with this cold transmission will make you a MT jedi.

Lantanafrs2 · 03-30-2018, 10:29 PM

These things make every friggin noise possible. Hard to believe they were made in Japan. If they were European we would celebrate the noises as part of the "driving experience " lol. In reality it's just part of owning a 25k sports car.

humfrz · 03-30-2018, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by eddwvrd

Has anybody experienced their 2nd gear making a clunk/metal noise? Everytime i cold start my car until it warms up and drive it first thing in the morning its kinda hard to shift it to 2nd gear and makes that clunk/metal noise(which is kinda embarrassing when people hear it and be like oh this dude is new to stick shift/irritating. But after a few minutes of driving the 2nd gear is smooth to shift and doesnt make that sound. Idk whats the problem but im guessing i should change the transmission and differential fluid? I already complain this to the dealer but the mechanic said it was normal. Anybody knows how to fix this problem?

Either just toot the horn between the 1-2 shifts......

OR

start off in 2nd gear ......

Fixed .....

humfrz

StraightOuttaCanadaEh · 03-30-2018, 10:38 PM

Shift it back and forth while standing, in the morning, before you get going. Just a few times from first to second and vice versa. Spreads that lube nicely (hehe)

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eddwvrd Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Drives: Frs Location: Virginia beach Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	2nd gear cold start problem Has anybody experienced their 2nd gear making a clunk/metal noise? Everytime i cold start my car until it warms up and drive it first thing in the morning its kinda hard to shift it to 2nd gear and makes that clunk/metal noise(which is kinda embarrassing when people hear it and be like oh this dude is new to stick shift/irritating. But after a few minutes of driving the 2nd gear is smooth to shift and doesnt make that sound. Idk whats the problem but im guessing i should change the transmission and differential fluid? I already complain this to the dealer but the mechanic said it was normal. Anybody knows how to fix this problem?

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