Dyno day results- gutted + E85 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

guybo · 02-24-2018, 04:00 PM

Dynojet

-Injen v1 intake
-gutted header and FP
-Works axleback & cherry bomb
-OFT OTS Stg 2 E85 tune

It's running a bit lean. The E85 I got in the last tank is less than 85% ethanol judging from my AFR (I have a gauge) and fuel trims. No FFK. Not enough to be an issue though. Numbers looked good, we have pretty good E85 around here. They had some trouble getting an RPM signal and my car sat idling for about 10 mins and my IAT was up over 120, I couldn't even feel their fan! That didn't help my numbers. If my IAT was lower, I'd have been over 200 HP... but I was not. No whining I'm happy with the results.

The total price of this set up (the relevant bits anyway) is about $650 altogether. I got the intake, Works axleback and OFT used locally. I could have done this for under $400 and had similar numbers. Plus running E85 is a cost SAVING over 93 (I did the numbers) and (though I haven't done the numbers) I think would be a saving over 91 even. Plus it smells so delicious.

A better header would get me better numbers, but a better HP/$ and Tq/$ - I don't think so. Not sure. Ecutec or custom tune would net better numbers too. Also the stock header means stock heat shields so heat isn't an issue under the hood. There's trade-offs for sure. It's a challenge to pursue extra power but keep it cheap.

Nice flat Tq curve- most of what I have done has been in the pursuit of more Tq. The smaller runners on the stock header don't do much for peak HP, but look at the tq curve. Up around 159 lb-ft peak looks great to me. Torque dip? Gone. Plus you can't get much cheaper.

Almost 200 HP....so close! I'll take 197 peak WHP. That weird dip is where I was shifting. Interestingly, I was making power right up to the rev limiter.

Lantanafrs2 · 02-24-2018, 07:05 PM

Nice numbers. Congrats!

guybo · 03-01-2018, 10:30 PM

I made a video, not much to see. But I am an Ethanolholic now! I'm a full convert despite my misgivings at first

Submarinesonce · 03-04-2018, 06:56 PM

check the tune, pretty sure it s pulling timing based on IAT by 119 degreesF or so. whered you run it?

carsebuco · 03-05-2018, 12:59 AM

I haven't run a dyno on mine since I don't have that much money to just throw around, but running Stage 2 UEL + E85 is indeed pretty awesome... I'll miss it when I move 8 miles south and it is no longer a viable drive to get some corn juice

guybo · 03-05-2018, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Submarinesonce

check the tune, pretty sure it s pulling timing based on IAT by 119 degreesF or so. whered you run it?

It was at a local high school and the car was sitting on the dyno idling (warm day, around 80) for 10 mins while they found the wires to get an RPM signal and my IAT was up around 126 and the fan they had wasn't doing the job.... so yeah, it was pulling timing. If they got that RPM signal right away, I would have gotten in over 200 HP.

Ah well, $50 for 3 pulls isn't bad.

sid94 · 03-05-2018, 10:32 AM

I have a friend with tomei el header, fa20club intake and oft e85 tune made 202 so yup hp/$ you good lol

02-24-2018, 04:00 PM	#1
guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dyno day results- gutted + E85 Dynojet -Injen v1 intake -gutted header and FP -Works axleback & cherry bomb -OFT OTS Stg 2 E85 tune It's running a bit lean. The E85 I got in the last tank is less than 85% ethanol judging from my AFR (I have a gauge) and fuel trims. No FFK. Not enough to be an issue though. Numbers looked good, we have pretty good E85 around here. They had some trouble getting an RPM signal and my car sat idling for about 10 mins and my IAT was up over 120, I couldn't even feel their fan! That didn't help my numbers. If my IAT was lower, I'd have been over 200 HP... but I was not. No whining I'm happy with the results. The total price of this set up (the relevant bits anyway) is about $650 altogether. I got the intake, Works axleback and OFT used locally. I could have done this for under $400 and had similar numbers. Plus running E85 is a cost SAVING over 93 (I did the numbers) and (though I haven't done the numbers) I think would be a saving over 91 even. Plus it smells so delicious. A better header would get me better numbers, but a better HP/$ and Tq/$ - I don't think so. Not sure. Ecutec or custom tune would net better numbers too. Also the stock header means stock heat shields so heat isn't an issue under the hood. There's trade-offs for sure. It's a challenge to pursue extra power but keep it cheap. Nice flat Tq curve- most of what I have done has been in the pursuit of more Tq. The smaller runners on the stock header don't do much for peak HP, but look at the tq curve. Up around 159 lb-ft peak looks great to me. Torque dip? Gone. Plus you can't get much cheaper. Almost 200 HP....so close! I'll take 197 peak WHP. That weird dip is where I was shifting. Interestingly, I was making power right up to the rev limiter. Attached Images

03-04-2018, 06:56 PM	#4
Submarinesonce Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Drives: Frs Location: Florida Posts: 130 Thanks: 21 Thanked 81 Times in 43 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	check the tune, pretty sure it s pulling timing based on IAT by 119 degreesF or so. whered you run it? __________________ JDL UEL Turbo GT2860RS, AP Racing BBK, Verus Splitter/diffuser/canards, Sard rep carbon wing, TFF bash bar, HKS hi power, Tein Flex A, Hotchkiss FSB, Radium MCB, Konig Hypergram 17x8, FS Indy 500, 6k HID, Whiteline trans bushing insert, Verus AOS, grimmspeed strut brace, Racerx oil cooler w/ setrab 619, ES steering rack bushings, Whiteline subframe bushings, Toms tails, STi mirror caps, IRP shifter, TRD Steering wheel

03-05-2018, 12:59 AM	#5
carsebuco How do I shift? Join Date: Nov 2016 Drives: '13 GBS BRZ Location: AZ Posts: 376 Thanks: 399 Thanked 129 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I haven't run a dyno on mine since I don't have that much money to just throw around, but running Stage 2 UEL + E85 is indeed pretty awesome... I'll miss it when I move 8 miles south and it is no longer a viable drive to get some corn juice __________________

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