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sw20kosh · 01-03-2018, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dowroa

Interested to see what this sounds like. While I am all for Min/Max... but I have yet to hear an EL system I wanted.

Thanks for letting us vicariously live the life of a Nationally Prepped STX BRZ!

justinco · 01-03-2018, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MyGT86Yas

Subscriber of your channel here

Are you gonna dyno the car with the same tune but different headers or headers and custom tune all in once? Tbh I really want to see a relatively objective comparison.

Hey thanks!

It will have to be re-tuned regardless. Or, more like I don't feel safe running the UEL specific tune with an EL header.

So yes, it will be my current tune + UEL header versus Delicious ACE tune + ACE header.

Unfortunately that is the best I can do.

CSG Mike · 01-03-2018, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MyGT86Yas

Subscriber of your channel here

Are you gonna dyno the car with the same tune but different headers or headers and custom tune all in once? Tbh I really want to see a relatively objective comparison.

I don't ever recommend doing a WOT pull to redline, untuned. That's a great way to put your engine at risk.

The true comparison is each header with a tune that's optimized for the header.

justinco · 01-03-2018, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I don't ever recommend doing a WOT pull to redline, untuned. That's a great way to put your engine at risk.

The true comparison is each header with a tune that's optimized for the header.

Yep! Pretty much my take on it.

dowroa · 01-03-2018, 06:54 PM

Bah!

@justinco, use all that sweet YouTube monies to blow up your car for our amusement! Logic be darned!

Dance!!!

</sarcasm>

Dr. BRZ · 01-03-2018, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 86_IT

Proud owner of ACE products here and Subscriber of your YouTube channel. Just wanted to say congrats and you will love it. I am sponsored by ACE and run their entire catalog on my NA BRZ build. So glad you chose them and CSG to work with. Keep up the good work.

With the ace setup, how much are you making? Whp

justinco · 01-03-2018, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dowroa

Bah!

@justinco, use all that sweet YouTube monies to blow up your car for our amusement! Logic be darned!

Dance!!!

</sarcasm>

Hah, YouTube money

MyGT86Yas · 01-03-2018, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I don't ever recommend doing a WOT pull to redline, untuned. That's a great way to put your engine at risk.

The true comparison is each header with a tune that's optimized for the header.

I believe he has access to an OTS stage 2 tune like OFT(?) It would be nice to see you guys do a true comparison tho.

CSG Mike · 01-04-2018, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MyGT86Yas

I believe he has access to an OTS stage 2 tune like OFT(?) It would be nice to see you guys do a true comparison tho.

I would not recommend a WOT redline pull on an Ace header with a OFT Stage 2 tune.

churchx · 01-04-2018, 03:01 AM

IIRC with non-ace specific OTS tunes dyno results were rather bad. Yes, something like torque dip was gone, but gains were very small. Only after DT invested lot of manhours into developing proper specialised tune those headers shown their potential. So i see no reasons not to use DT Ace-specific OTS tune, otherwise investment "to get best" will be for nothing, or on contrary one will get less performance then with some cheaper generic uel headers but with better fitting them tune.

MyGT86Yas · 01-04-2018, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by justinco

Hey thanks!

It will have to be re-tuned regardless. Or, more like I don't feel safe running the UEL specific tune with an EL header.

So yes, it will be my current tune + UEL header versus Delicious ACE tune + ACE header.

Unfortunately that is the best I can do.

That's the best you can do for a fair & objective comparison. Can't wait to see the install & Dyno.

churchx · 01-04-2018, 04:22 AM

And that's also right thing to do for review/results others should expect, as those header/tune combinations most probably are most common among different users/customers with only few paying extra for custom dyno tunes.

86_IT · 01-04-2018, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ

With the ace setup, how much are you making? Whp

Haven't tuned or dyno'd yet. I'll be getting tuned next month.

nikitopo · 01-04-2018, 02:31 PM

Justin, I like your channel. Waiting for results.

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dowroa Old Guy Join Date: Jan 2011 Drives: 16 STi, 22 MX-5 RF BBS, 04 OBS RPA Location: Durham, NC Posts: 293 Thanks: 531 Thanked 187 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Bah! @justinco, use all that sweet YouTube monies to blow up your car for our amusement! Logic be darned! Dance!!! </sarcasm>

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churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,334 Thanks: 698 Thanked 2,086 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	IIRC with non-ace specific OTS tunes dyno results were rather bad. Yes, something like torque dip was gone, but gains were very small. Only after DT invested lot of manhours into developing proper specialised tune those headers shown their potential. So i see no reasons not to use DT Ace-specific OTS tune, otherwise investment "to get best" will be for nothing, or on contrary one will get less performance then with some cheaper generic uel headers but with better fitting them tune.

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churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,334 Thanks: 698 Thanked 2,086 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	And that's also right thing to do for review/results others should expect, as those header/tune combinations most probably are most common among different users/customers with only few paying extra for custom dyno tunes.

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nikitopo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '15 BRZ RA Location: Greece Posts: 3,787 Thanks: 2,417 Thanked 1,947 Times in 1,263 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Justin, I like your channel. Waiting for results.

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