ACE Header Independent Testing Results and Review - 199.6WHP on CA 91 Octane

[churchx]

CSG Mike: my logic was with assumption Delicious might have OTS tunes for all of them. If it's not so, of course no sense to compare against headers not having "native" OTS one while using ecu tune from other header, and if half of headers need to have complete custom tuning, then of course time/money spent is rised too much to make sense doing. Then i guess about the only thing that can be done, is trying to photoshop together different header charts trying to tie via baselines of stock, relatively of which to put/scale tuned header graph. Yes, it will be different cars, different days and maybe even different dynos and with trying to manually scale while pasting together but better then nothing and still may serve at least for rough comparison/choice to whom which from ace's headers may fit better.

[JSube]

So, we're on the forums because we love our cars and tuners exist because manufacturers have to build cars on a template which will inevitably leave some room, less with NA & more with FI, to increase performance. And altho we all have basically the same car, we do the research we can do once we've figured out a direction to go and see graphs from different dynos on cars with slightly different parts that result in slightly different numbers. Because a number is not an opinion, we believe we are seeing some sort of truth. And we are, but it's a truth with qualifications.
A few vendors sell parts and services they have done meaningful development on. Most simply receive parts in boxes from every supplier who makes parts to fit our cars and ship the same box to us when we buy them. That's fine, sometimes we save money that way. I don't need to have Oakos prove to me RPF1s are great wheels when I'll save $175 over a competitor if I buy from them.
I'm a few months away from buying the rest of CSG's NA Power pkg (exhaust is on the car already) because from what I can tell they've done an unusual amount of testing and development. Delicious has also done testing because they wouldn't have a product otherwise. But, since many tuners don't know their ass from their elbow, their reputation on this forum has a value for me. I don't think the performance difference would be night and day between the ACE header and another header, but there will be some. And what I want from the tune is max output balanced with max safety. So I'm going to jump, because whether you live in Louisville or Latvia, at some point you just have to. Or not.

[gtengr]

Originally Posted by Roadcone

I've been asking for this since everything started. there's no proof that anything is better than anything else other than we said so. For all the testing that claims to have happened how have they not tried each header on the car and tuned it to see which does best and shared the results?

I looked into this further and it's pretty clear they have been tested and it trends toward more high end/less low end as you go from the 350 to the 150.

[FunnyGopher]

Hey peoples! I'm super excited, because my ACE 350 header, front pipe, and CSG x MXP catback are arriving tomorrow! I recently had my car dyno'd, so after I have everything on, tuned, and dyno'd again, I'll post the before and after results.

The car was dyno'd with an intake and throttle body, so it's not a true baseline, but better than none.

[gtengr]

Originally Posted by FunnyGopher

Hey peoples! I'm super excited, because my ACE 350 header, front pipe, and CSG x MXP catback are arriving tomorrow! I recently had my car dyno'd, so after I have everything on, tuned, and dyno'd again, I'll post the before and after results.

The car was dyno'd with an intake and throttle body, do it's not a true baseline, but better than none.

I installed the CS400 w/Delicious tune a few weeks ago and am hoping to get it on a dyno before the new year.

[FunnyGopher]

Originally Posted by gtengr

I installed the CS400 w/Delicious tune a few weeks ago and am hoping to get it on a dyno before the new year.

Awesome! Also doing the Delicious tune, but then I'm going to have a local club tuner dial it in on a dyno. I'm interested in seeing the torque difference with the 400 against the 350.

[Chamaco]

sub'd! Bought mine on cyber monday now sitting patiently for it to arrive.

[ThatAsianBradah]

Originally Posted by gtengr

I installed the CS400 w/Delicious tune a few weeks ago and am hoping to get it on a dyno before the new year.

Did you get the chance to dyno it yet? For now, how's the driving experience with the CS400?

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[gtengr]

Originally Posted by ThatAsianBradah

Did you get the chance to dyno it yet? For now, how's the driving experience with the CS400?

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I haven't dyno'd it yet. The driving experience has been great. It's much more fun to wind a gear out from 3000 rpm instead of downshifting.

[gtengr]

couple of pics from the install

[mrspindlelegs]

That's some mighty fine header porn.

[JSube]

Outta the box and onto the car!!

[jasonojordan]

Originally Posted by JSube

Outta the box and onto the car!!

You will thoroughly enjoy the sound your car makes with these on. Be aware there will be some light smoke on 1st start up. At least there was in my case.

[Teseo]

Originally Posted by Chamaco

sub'd! Bought mine on cyber monday now sitting patiently for it to arrive.

Quien te va hacer el tuneo?