Spec Twin?

[Ribface]

It's halfway between DS and STX pax. Look like a good starting point to me.

[DaWorstPlaya]

Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup

That soft pax looks like they picked a spec tire slower than the Nexens. That would blow chunks!!!

Here's to hoping it's RE71Rs.

[M0nk3y]

Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya

Here's to hoping it's RE71Rs.

Don’t get your hopes up.

You can pretty much cross out Rivals or RE-71Rs


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[iLuveKetchup]

Originally Posted by Ribface

It's halfway between DS and STX pax. Look like a good starting point to me.

Too good to be true. I’m waiting for the catch.

Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya

Here's to hoping it's RE71Rs.

No way will it be REs. Sounds like a new Falken tire.

[tony_r]

Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup

Too good to be true. I’m waiting for the catch.

No way will it be REs. Sounds like a new Falken tire.

So the Z2SS then? Because they're the same compound. I hated that tire.

[G_Ride]

Originally Posted by tony_r

So the Z2SS then? Because they're the same compound. I hated that tire.

Source? That's interesting, though.

[TrqlessWonder]

Originally Posted by Ribface

It's halfway between DS and STX pax. Look like a good starting point to me.

And expected to be just a whisker faster than the ND. That feels like a bit of a reach for something that is not very different from a CS FR-S.

[Twinz]

Originally Posted by TrqlessWonder

And expected to be just a whisker faster than the ND. That feels like a bit of a reach for something that is not very different from a CS FR-S.

I expect the 8" wheels and camber to make it faster than my CS setup was. (on Rival S or RE71)

The alignment is a PITA too. The rear has a lot of cross-talk between toe and camber so we had to keep going back and forth between the two. The front gets a good chunk of camber from slop but it's not a simple matter of just maxing it out because of clearance issues. (At least with the rivals)

[tony_r]

Originally Posted by G_Ride

Source? That's interesting, though.

It's on that one forum somewhere. You can probably ask Mike Maier, too.

I'd be interested in doing a true test with the CS ND and the SSC car. I drove them back to back and put down extremely similar times on a 60s course. I think they're both just as fast as one another. PAX is "accurate" given similar tires. I drove both cars with 225 Rival S.

Yeah, the ND is just that fast.

[strat61caster]

idk I read that pax as 'give an 86 a better alignment and it's actually on par with an ND'

No way is a lame tire on an SSC prepped 86 going to run times with CS

The SSC kit isn't STX-lite, it's a Street+

[tony_r]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

The SSC kit isn't STX-lite, it's a Street+

On certain courses, it is STX-lite. It handles very similarly with a tad more roll. So long as you don't spend a lot of time in the torque dip they will be pretty close to each other.

I've driven a few STX cars, the CS trim, DS trim and now the SSC car. It certainly handles more closely to an STX car without the power, since you don't have to tip toe around a junk front end.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by tony_r

It certainly handles more closely to an STX car without the power, since you don't have to tip toe around a junk front end.

Most definitely this is the biggest performance enhancer available with the SSC goodies. You're probably right and I'm underestimating how quick an SSC car is with good rubber if the alignment is there.

You've alluded to getting over -3 degrees of camber on an SSC car I think, but it's not by much right?

After seeing you drive Rich's car at Round 1 this year I have no doubt you know what you're talking about.

[tony_r]

Close to -3.5 with +40.

[G_Ride]

Originally Posted by tony_r

It's on that one forum somewhere. You can probably ask Mike Maier, too.

I'd be interested in doing a true test with the CS ND and the SSC car. I drove them back to back and put down extremely similar times on a 60s course. I think they're both just as fast as one another. PAX is "accurate" given similar tires. I drove both cars with 225 Rival S.

Yeah, the ND is just that fast.

I keep forgetting that Mike runs Falkens. I'll have to ask him.

Originally Posted by strat61caster

idk I read that pax as 'give an 86 a better alignment and it's actually on par with an ND'

No way is a lame tire on an SSC prepped 86 going to run times with CS

The SSC kit isn't STX-lite, it's a Street+

I agree, it will all depend on what tire SSC runs.