Scion Pure Price Haggling?

[thermobox]

Ummm. No. 20 bucks for every 1k usually includes your APR. There is no way that they reduced the payment by 100 a month unless they had the car marked up 5k.

[whtchocla7e]

Originally Posted by rice_classic

They only make $1300 on the sale of the car unless they add a bunch of "options" for you like "rear bumper applique!"

Only $1300? Poor dealers..

[Norcalscionchamp]

Your right poor dealers... You have a 25k product with less than 10% markup in it...people who don't understand how a business works just think that everything should be cheap and nobody should make any profit...that's what's wrong with this country everyone wants something for nothing

[GenkiElite]

Originally Posted by Ocho-Seis

Call me stupid, but I like Pure Pricing.....I didn't feel like I was getting cheated. Felt as if I was walking into a Best Buy and buying a T.V. and leaving.

Yeah, but you can get that same tv for a whole lot less through Amazon, brand new to your door. I agree with your point but Im jabbin at you because Best Buy is a total rip off every time.

[Norcalscionchamp]

When you can buy cars online and have them delivered to your door salespeople will be obsolete...there goes a whole bunch of jobs lol...good thing I will be out of school by then and won't be selling cars anymore ; )

[m.box.design]

Just curious, how much APR did those of you who are financing receive?

[clevrname]

Pure Pricing, like everyone said, is made to make the buying process easier. Whatever the dealer has posted in their showroom and on their website is what they HAVE to sell the vehicle for, according to Scion.

I am a Scion Manager and I know all about how the program works. Do some dealers negotiate? Of course they do, however, I had a finance manager mark down a warranry to make it more fesiable for a Scion customer once, and we were audited by Scion. In return, I lost inventory due to disobeying the Pure Price guidelines.

That being said, when you say "Only 1300 dollars". You have to take into consideration that each vehicle, in most dealerships, have what they call a "pack". My dealership has a $500 pack, meaning no matter what, there is automatically $500 dollars taken our of gross from each vehicle. Therefore, we are now down to 800 dollar profit for the salesperson. If you are truely satisfied with your salesperson, you should not be ridiculous. Salesmen are paid on gross, not units. If I had someone sell 15 FR-S in a month, they would make a whopping $2400 dollars in commissions. 800*15=12,000 in gross, and they make 20% of gross. I don't know about you guys, but for someone working to support a family, $2400 isn't very easy to make ends meet.

If you don't like the price, don't buy the damn car.

/rant

[Erroneous]

Originally Posted by clevrname

Pure Pricing, like everyone said, is made to make the buying process easier. Whatever the dealer has posted in their showroom and on their website is what they HAVE to sell the vehicle for, according to Scion.

I am a Scion Manager and I know all about how the program works. Do some dealers negotiate? Of course they do, however, I had a finance manager mark down a warranry to make it more fesiable for a Scion customer once, and we were audited by Scion. In return, I lost inventory due to disobeying the Pure Price guidelines.

That being said, when you say "Only 1300 dollars". You have to take into consideration that each vehicle, in most dealerships, have what they call a "pack". My dealership has a $500 pack, meaning no matter what, there is automatically $500 dollars taken our of gross from each vehicle. Therefore, we are now down to 800 dollar profit for the salesperson. If you are truely satisfied with your salesperson, you should not be ridiculous. Salesmen are paid on gross, not units. If I had someone sell 15 FR-S in a month, they would make a whopping $2400 dollars in commissions. 800*15=12,000 in gross, and they make 20% of gross. I don't know about you guys, but for someone working to support a family, $2400 isn't very easy to make ends meet.

If you don't like the price, don't buy the damn car.

/rant

Do they not get a base salary too? Serious question, I don't know.

I'd love to get $800 for selling an FR-S. Seems pretty easy to me.

[Chewie4299]

Originally Posted by Erroneous

Do they not get a base salary too? Serious question, I don't know.

I'd love to get $800 for selling an FR-S. Seems pretty easy to me.

It's not. Think about how many FRS each dealership, let alone sales person, will have an opportunity to sell.



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[thermobox]

Originally Posted by Erroneous

Do they not get a base salary too? Serious question, I don't know.

I'd love to get $800 for selling an FR-S. Seems pretty easy to me.

No, we don't get a base salary. It's a commission only job. No, we don't get the 800 dollars. We get anywhere from 15-40% of the gross profit of a deal.
If there isn't any gross in the deal, you will generaly get a "flat" commission anywhere from 75-350 per car depending on how many cars you sell.

If this was an "easy" job everyone would do it. There's months I've made 600 and months I've made 6k. It just depends on the amount of cars sold and the amount of gross you have.

[encity5]

One salesman out of a big dealership selling 15 FR-S a month? that dealership must not have a problem getting allocation if they can meet that demand! and their other salesmen must be giving one guy all the paying customers

2400 is certainly not enough

[Erroneous]

Originally Posted by thermobox

No, we don't get a base salary. It's a commission only job. No, we don't get the 800 dollars. We get anywhere from 15-40% of the gross profit of a deal.
If there isn't any gross in the deal, you will generaly get a "flat" commission anywhere from 75-350 per car depending on how many cars you sell.

If this was an "easy" job everyone would do it. There's months I've made 600 and months I've made 6k. It just depends on the amount of cars sold and the amount of gross you have.

Well that sucks. I thought for sure you'd at least get some scant hourly wage (like servers).

Someone is making a killing on the options. $400 for a window tint on a car this tiny? Oof. How is that divided up?

[Erroneous]

Originally Posted by Chewie4299

It's not. Think about how many FRS each dealership, let alone sales person, will have an opportunity to sell.



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It's easy if I call and say "I want this car, I'm ready to buy, give me a good price."

[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by Erroneous

It's easy if I call and say "I want this car, I'm ready to buy, give me a good price."

In this part of town they'll reply with; "Ok, get in line, put down a deposit and your car will be here in 6 months."