Spec Twin?

[Bitters]

Originally Posted by Twinz

The Enkei TS-10'S are listed under $200 each on Tire Rack.

So about the same price as the Titan's (I quoted in Canadian dollars) but they weigh 0.7 lbs more.

[Twinz]

Originally Posted by Bitters

So about the same price as the Titan's (I quoted in Canadian dollars) but they weigh 0.7 lbs more.

https://www.google.com/search?q=rota...ta+&aqs=chrome

You must have found a great deal. The first few that pop up are between 400 and 500 bucks. (Each?)

*edit* racinglab has them cheap. (Although I know nothing about that site.)

[Bitters]

Maybe you are looking at the cost of a set? (Edit, I think you are)

Isn't this one on amazon for a set of 4 @ $695? (And wheeldude sells a set for $700 as well)

https://www.amazon.com/TITAN-WHEELS-.../dp/B00WY7C9SS
http://www.wheeldude.com/catalog/pro...a96d18b9510747

Even the Rota Canada site shows them at $275 Canadian per wheel (https://www.rotawheels.ca/cart/Product_View.php?id=44) for a larger wheel

[TMF]

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

There really are very few legal exhaust options under $1,300 where making weight should even be a concern. I think people are making far too much out of this than they need to.

If someone is going to buy a really expensive titanium exhaust, the whole purpose of which is to get a super light exhaust, only to add weights to it to make it 18lbs and think that's the solution to winning, I'm pretty sure they're mistaken on what's really holding them back.

It's particularly silly when it's easy to figure out that you can achieve pretty much as close to 18lbs as possible with a Nameless single exit muffled track pipe on the stock midpipe, which will cost you all of ~$250 new and a lot less used.

I conveniently already have this muffled track pipe

I saw earlier in the thread that the stock midpipe weight 12.4 lbs. Is that confirmed and does anyone have a photo/proof or do I need to pull mine off and weigh it?

According to the nameless website, the muffled track pipe weights 6lbs (https://shop.namelessperformance.com...-pipe-brz-frs/). Therefore the stock midpipe + muffled track pipe comes in right at 18.4 lbs.

PS, if you're ordering anything from Nameless, be aware that they typically do not carry any inventory, and they take forever (6+ weeks) to build and ship stuff.

PS#2: That little muffler doesn't do much to quiet it down. Still very loud and drones on the highway.

[Bitters]

Originally Posted by TMF

I conveniently already have this muffled track pipe

I saw earlier in the thread that the stock midpipe weight 12.4 lbs. Is that confirmed and does anyone have a photo/proof or do I need to pull mine off and weigh it?

According to the nameless website, the muffled track pipe weights 6lbs (https://shop.namelessperformance.com...-pipe-brz-frs/). Therefore the stock midpipe + muffled track pipe comes in right at 18.4 lbs.

PS, if you're ordering anything from Nameless, be aware that they typically do not carry any inventory, and they take forever (6+ weeks) to build and ship stuff.

PS#2: That little muffler doesn't do much to quiet it down. Still very loud and drones on the highway.

Do you think there is any incremental benefit going with a full catback system versus just changing to this muffler? Weight wise there does not seem to be, but any small benefits from changing the midpipe?

[Shark_Bait88]

Originally Posted by Twinz

https://www.google.com/search?q=rota...ta+&aqs=chrome

You must have found a great deal. The first few that pop up are between 400 and 500 bucks. (Each?)

*edit* racinglab has them cheap. (Although I know nothing about that site.)

Originally Posted by Bitters

Maybe you are looking at the cost of a set? (Edit, I think you are)

Isn't this one on amazon for a set of 4 @ $695? (And wheeldude sells a set for $700 as well)

https://www.amazon.com/TITAN-WHEELS-.../dp/B00WY7C9SS
http://www.wheeldude.com/catalog/pro...a96d18b9510747

Even the Rota Canada site shows them at $275 Canadian per wheel (https://www.rotawheels.ca/cart/Product_View.php?id=44) for a larger wheel

I think Bitters is right, it looks like you're either looking at the cost of a set (~$700-800) or possibly looking at listings for the wheels that the Titans are Knockoffs of, the WedSport TC105N.

I'd get the TC105N if I could, but sadly they weigh too little. Which is even sadder that I'd have to buy the knockoff version of an already great quality and low weight wheel, which happens to be surprisingly affordable, to meet the class weight restriction...

[Shark_Bait88]

Originally Posted by Bitters

Do you think there is any incremental benefit going with a full catback system versus just changing to this muffler? Weight wise there does not seem to be, but any small benefits from changing the midpipe?

Not really. There's essentially no power to be gained in the catback on these cars. It's pretty much just a weight, sound, and aesthetics decision.

[Bitters]

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

Not really. There's essentially no power to be gained in the catback on these cars. It's pretty much just a weight, sound, and aesthetics decision.

One of the reviewers on the website said it blew over 92 db (over their autox venue requirements). We cap it at 93 db locally, so I wonder how much over it goes.

[TMF]

Originally Posted by Bitters

One of the reviewers on the website said it blew over 92 db (over their autox venue requirements). We cap it at 93 db locally, so I wonder how much over it goes.

Regarding your power question...highly doubtful that there is any benefit to aftermarket. I was mainly asking because I want to at least hit the minimum weight and not have to pull mine off to weigh it lol.

Regarding sound...I haven't gone over our sound limit, but the lowest site limit we have is 95 db. I think when I've looked at our sound audit sheets in the past, I think I'm usually around 88? Lots of factors come into play when measuring sound, but I've yet to have a concern. We just had an event yesterday, and I can post back if I see the audit sheets.

[Ribface]

Originally Posted by Bitters

Isn't this one on amazon for a set of 4 @ $695? (And wheeldude sells a set for $700 as well)

https://www.amazon.com/TITAN-WHEELS-.../dp/B00WY7C9SS

Btw if you look at the questions on that page. The vendor is saying they are 17.3lbs

[G_Ride]

Originally Posted by Bitters

One of the reviewers on the website said it blew over 92 db (over their autox venue requirements). We cap it at 93 db locally, so I wonder how much over it goes.

Originally Posted by TMF

Regarding your power question...highly doubtful that there is any benefit to aftermarket. I was mainly asking because I want to at least hit the minimum weight and not have to pull mine off to weigh it lol.

Regarding sound...I haven't gone over our sound limit, but the lowest site limit we have is 95 db. I think when I've looked at our sound audit sheets in the past, I think I'm usually around 88? Lots of factors come into play when measuring sound, but I've yet to have a concern. We just had an event yesterday, and I can post back if I see the audit sheets.

For both cases, how far away is your sound meter?

[Jawnathin]

I have the Nameless muffled axle back with stock mid pipe and at Nationals my car registered 79-80dB. Never had an issue at any event for sound ever. It’s among the quieter cars at an autocross. Certainly quieter than any prepped STX car.

[TMF]

Originally Posted by G_Ride

For both cases, how far away is your sound meter?

Usually 50 feet.

[Bitters]

Wonder if we can get a good group buy option on some SSC wheels over the winter. Maybe even a custom job to deliver a 40mm offset so we can avoid spacers. Any one have a good vendor recommendation to poke about this?