STX Rules and Setup Questions

[ApexEight]

Few quick questions:

- Are aesthetic front lips permitted (STi lip)?
- Are aftermarket shifter springs, shifter carrier bushings, and rear shifter bushings legal?
- Is it ok to daily with -3 or more camber if it's a short commute, like 15 miles each way? Don't want to wear out the daily wheels (stock wheels with 225 all-seasons).

Thanks!

[tigermack]

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

If any of you STX folks are looking for new wheels, you might wanna jump on the Konig Hypergrams during Discount Tire's Labor Day sale. 17x9 +40 (should clear most BBK), flow formed, and only ~$565 before tax with the $100 off sale through Discount Tire.

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-whe...ergram/p/47839

Looks pretty good, not bad for 18lbs.

[e1_griego]

I have two sets, both purchased through Discount Tire. They also usually incentivize putting stuff on an account with an extra $100 back for wheels and $100 back for tires.

[justinco]

Originally Posted by ApexEight

Few quick questions:

- Are aesthetic front lips permitted (STi lip)?
- Are aftermarket shifter springs, shifter carrier bushings, and rear shifter bushings legal?
- Is it ok to daily with -3 or more camber if it's a short commute, like 15 miles each way? Don't want to wear out the daily wheels (stock wheels with 225 all-seasons).

Thanks!

Yes to OEM STi lip.

The Whiteline shift bushing is a common legal upgrade. Haven't heard of the others.

DD is fine w/ that camber. Tires won't wear as well as with a street alignment, of course. Never been a big deal for me.

[ApexEight]

Originally Posted by justinco

Yes to OEM STi lip.

The Whiteline shift bushing is a common legal upgrade. Haven't heard of the others.

DD is fine w/ that camber. Tires won't wear as well as with a street alignment, of course. Never been a big deal for me.

Thanks!

Are you refering to the Whiteline positive shift bushing that inserts into the transmission bushing? I was talking about the rear shifter bushings and stuff for the actual shifter.

[cjd]

Originally Posted by ApexEight

Few quick questions:

- Are aesthetic front lips permitted (STi lip)?
- Are aftermarket shifter springs, shifter carrier bushings, and rear shifter bushings legal?
- Is it ok to daily with -3 or more camber if it's a short commute, like 15 miles each way? Don't want to wear out the daily wheels (stock wheels with 225 all-seasons).

Thanks!

I believe any bushing can be swapped as long as it maintains original geometry and has no more metal content than stock. I think the springs are legal since the shifter itself is open and they simply replace stock.

As noted, the STI lip is legal... On a BRZ. It still has to have been a factory option.

I'd guess at 30mi/day you'll age the tires out before they wear too far. I haven't run all season tires in years since they're useless, but haven't been disappointed in the wear on summers or snow tires on my bold car... I don't drive most days now so no direct comparison. Still road trip at -3.3 and don't observe any obvious issues.

[ApexEight]

Awesome, thanks. Yeah, as long as I have good toe settings I too don't forsee the camber being an issue.

Last legality question... Brake master cylinder brace?

[cjd]

Originally Posted by ApexEight

Awesome, thanks. Yeah, as long as I have good toe settings I too don't forsee the camber being an issue.

Last legality question... Brake master cylinder brace?

Nope. Not legal.

[ApexEight]

I lied. There's one more... Grimmspeed strut tower brace while retaining stock braces?

[G_Ride]

Originally Posted by ApexEight

I lied. There's one more... Grimmspeed strut tower brace while retaining stock braces?

That should be legal

[cjd]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

I was actually reading the rules yesterday and the toe arms are STX legal if you're using an adjustable LCA and not a modification to the upper arm (I think whiteline offers a camber bushing). Either it was changed in the last year or so or we're both crazy.

14.8.H.1
On double/unequal arm (e.g., wishbone, multi-link) suspensions, only the upper arms OR lower arms may be modified or replaced, but not both.

Bringing this over where it belongs.

Where are toe arms allowed? I'd so like to not mess with the eccentrics... I only see an allowance for upper or lower arms, nothing anywhere about the toe tie rods. Not specifically allowed = not legal... I really hope I'm just blind, but I reread the rules and find nothing. Or are you saying that you can run stock everything and aftermarket toe arm? Not sure I can go without the LCA.

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[M0nk3y]

Originally Posted by cjd

Bringing this over where it belongs.



Where are toe arms allowed? I'd so like to not mess with the eccentrics... I only see an allowance for upper or lower arms, nothing anywhere about the toe tie rods. Not specifically allowed = not legal... I really hope I'm just blind, but I reread the rules and find nothing. Or are you saying that you can run stock everything and aftermarket toe arm? Not sure I can go without the LCA.



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Toe arms are not legal, and open to a wonderful justified protest


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[cjd]

Originally Posted by M0nk3y

Toe arms are not legal, and open to a wonderful justified protest


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That's what I understand to be the case also. Disappointing, I have plenty of range and only want an easier time doing my alignment... But I understand the rule and will deal with it.

[M0nk3y]

Originally Posted by cjd

That's what I understand to be the case also. Disappointing, I have plenty of range and only want an easier time doing my alignment... But I understand the rule and will deal with it.

Because toe arms change the bushing to a spherical, which is not allowed per ST rules saying you can not change the style of bushing


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