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LudwigMiles · 08-20-2017, 01:33 PM

Was this the thread where people were claiming that skipping gears is bad for the gearbox? I found that assertion to be ridiculous.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpGsNXUlX1c"]Is It Okay To Skip Gears In A Manual Transmission? - YouTube[/ame]

guybo · 08-20-2017, 02:39 PM

It's possible that the OP got a car that just happened to have issues with several different components and the failures were unrelated and he's just unlucky. But it's not likely.

Almost everybody I meet with serious car issues, cause the issues by their lack of maintenance and care. The exception being Fiat-Chrysler products that just fall apart for no reason by design. People don't realize that doing or not doing something just 1 time can ruin a part. Maybe not today but it will.

the perfect example is a transmission. They have a vent on them and if that trans is submerged just once (that puddle doesn't look so deep!), even if the car makes it through the event and seems fine- the damage is already done and that trans will shit the bed sooner or later. We all make our own problems.

That said, the TOB is a known weak spot with this car (IMHO it should be a recall and the part re-engineered) and the crickets are a known and I do not feel bad for anyone affected- you should have done some research, it's only a noise. The grinding gearbox and synchros- I always suspect the driver over anything else. Learn to shift.

TommyW · 08-31-2017, 10:09 PM

I don't fell like flogging through multiple pages of posts but would like to comment so I may be repeating.
Crickets are well documented and just part of the experience and if you did your homework you would have known this. If you bought your car used there's a good chance the previous owned enjoyed launching, donuts, etc. Try another sports car and these issues will seem minor plus repairs are not even comparable to BMW, Porsche, etc. For the money it's a great car and over 40 years of owning sports cars I can vouch for this

Tcoat · 08-31-2017, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

Was this the thread where people were claiming that skipping gears is bad for the gearbox? I found that assertion to be ridiculous.

Wait...
You assert that double clutching is needed to preserve synchros yet think that skip shifting is a great idea?
Or should I say you think you would wear out your "dog teeth".
Oh dude what are you on anyway?

humfrz · 09-01-2017, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Wait...
You assert that double clutching is needed to preserve synchros yet think that skip shifting is a great idea?
Or should I say you think you would wear out your "dog teeth".
Oh dude what are you on anyway?

Oh, Tcoat, I'm ah feared he ain't on nutten ....... that's just the way he thinks .....

humfrz

TommyW · 09-01-2017, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

Was this the thread where people were claiming that skipping gears is bad for the gearbox? I found that assertion to be ridiculous.

If you can Rev match it it isn't a problem

Teseo · 09-01-2017, 11:59 AM

Why skip gears? You are missin' the fun of driving manuel

mrg666 · 09-01-2017, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo

Why skip gears? You are missin' the fun of driving manuel

Well, drive semi-automatic (AT in manual mode), you simply can't skip.

Ultramaroon · 09-01-2017, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mrg666

Well, drive semi-automatic (AT in manual mode), you simply can't skip.

You must be a glutton for punishment mentioning that here.

johan · 09-01-2017, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

You must be a glutton for punishment mentioning that here.

and?

Capt Spaulding · 09-01-2017, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johan

and?

Ultramaroon · 09-01-2017, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by johan

and?

Oh, ok.

mrg666 · 09-01-2017, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

You must be a glutton for punishment mentioning that here.

LOL, that is the whole purpose of trolling

Capt Spaulding · 09-01-2017, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Oh, ok.

Wonderful explanation, Jeremy.

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08-20-2017, 01:33 PM	#127
LudwigMiles Banned Join Date: Jul 2017 Drives: '13 BRZ Location: NY Posts: 232 Thanks: 17 Thanked 53 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Was this the thread where people were claiming that skipping gears is bad for the gearbox? I found that assertion to be ridiculous. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpGsNXUlX1c"]Is It Okay To Skip Gears In A Manual Transmission? - YouTube[/ame]

08-20-2017, 02:39 PM	#128
guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's possible that the OP got a car that just happened to have issues with several different components and the failures were unrelated and he's just unlucky. But it's not likely. Almost everybody I meet with serious car issues, cause the issues by their lack of maintenance and care. The exception being Fiat-Chrysler products that just fall apart for no reason by design. People don't realize that doing or not doing something just 1 time can ruin a part. Maybe not today but it will. the perfect example is a transmission. They have a vent on them and if that trans is submerged just once (that puddle doesn't look so deep!), even if the car makes it through the event and seems fine- the damage is already done and that trans will shit the bed sooner or later. We all make our own problems. That said, the TOB is a known weak spot with this car (IMHO it should be a recall and the part re-engineered) and the crickets are a known and I do not feel bad for anyone affected- you should have done some research, it's only a noise. The grinding gearbox and synchros- I always suspect the driver over anything else. Learn to shift.

08-31-2017, 10:09 PM	#129
TommyW Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: '13 Whiteout Location: San Clemente Posts: 1,493 Thanks: 496 Thanked 1,245 Times in 674 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't fell like flogging through multiple pages of posts but would like to comment so I may be repeating. Crickets are well documented and just part of the experience and if you did your homework you would have known this. If you bought your car used there's a good chance the previous owned enjoyed launching, donuts, etc. Try another sports car and these issues will seem minor plus repairs are not even comparable to BMW, Porsche, etc. For the money it's a great car and over 40 years of owning sports cars I can vouch for this

09-01-2017, 11:59 AM	#133
Teseo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: frs Location: Gunsai Posts: 4,954 Thanks: 7,467 Thanked 2,980 Times in 1,802 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Why skip gears? You are missin' the fun of driving manuel

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