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Old 08-22-2017, 11:38 AM   #57
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I don't think you understand what I am saying.

Did you see the 4 websites I linked above?
They sell parts, branded with the part manufacturer, and have nothing to do with auto maker brands.
This is what I mean by "buying direct".

You know how you can buy a screw at Ace Hardware and stick in in your Toyota?
Did you see how Toyota had nothing to do with that transaction?
You did not buy it from Toyota, nor did did you buy a "Toyota" screw from Ace Hardware.
That is what I am talking about.

WHEN YOU BUY A GENUINE SUBARU PART (from ANYONE) YOU ARE PAYING TRIPLE THE PRICE OF WHAT IT WOULD COST IF IT JUST SAID "Mitsubishi"
(NOT a Mitsubishi with the Mitsubishi logo scratched off, and the word GENUINE SUBARU painted over it, and then marked up 300%)

However, no one here gets that , since there seems to be no way to buy "Mitsubishi" alternators. If there were, this would not be a thread.
We'd be discussing the 50 websites that sell Mitsubishi parts, and which are the best priced.

As we've established, it appears this option simply does not exist in the Japanese parts market, and that is the source of the huge disconnect.
I am coming from a place you do not even know exists. Like Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

Just so you get where I was coming from:
Buying a Genuine part from a dealer is a rip off.
Buying a Genuine part from a website is just a little less of a rip off.
It's still branded as SUBARU, and will be marked up triple.

$400 for an alternator is hilarious.
Online, you can get a Bosch alternator for $150-$200 that will fit into an Audi, BMW, Porsche, etc.
But an "Audi" alternator is probably $400, just like your "Subaru" alternator.

The difference is that there are 50 websites selling Bosch alternators directly to customers (That have nothing to do with the word "BMW")
But, where are the sites selling Mitsubishi alternators? They don't exist.
This is why I was so confused at people buying parts from the dealer.
With Japanese cars, it seems like that is the only option for OE parts.

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Old 08-22-2017, 11:44 AM   #58
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I don't think you understand what I am saying.
Like you missed every single point I made.

WHEN YOU BUY A GENUINE SUBARU PART (from ANYONE) YOU ARE PAYING TRIPLE THE PRICE OF WHAT IT WOULD COST IF IT JUST SAID "BOSCH"

Do you get it? Where is the option to buy "Bosch" (NOT a Bosch with the Bosch logo scratched off, and the word GENUINE SUBARU painted over it, and then marked up 300%)

As we've established, it appears this option simply does not exist in the Japanese parts market.

Buying a Genuine part from a dealer is a rip off.
Buying a Genuine part from a website is just a little less of a rip off.

$400 for an alternator is outrageous.
I can get a Bosch alternator for $150-$200

You are not even in the same ballpark with these insanely priced "Genuine" logo parts from whomever you buy them from.

You have not yet proven one statement. All you reply with is opinion and rhetoric. Show me a dealer price and an online price for the exact same thing that is 300-400% different. I don't even care what make of car.


I fully understand what you are saying and it is wrong. The parts on the sites are not branded as Subaru they simply state they are the same parts. Subaru has nothing to do with the sites and they are not marking up because of the statement.No different than what the sites you linked say.
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:56 AM   #59
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On the contrary, if someone comes in and says, "Hey, here's a way to get good quality parts for a lot cheaper," I'm all for it.
Funny, I noticed that one of the vendors I posted appears to sell parts for Subaru.

I spot checked a few common parts, and noticed they do not sell OE parts from Japanese companies. This further confirms that the Japan parts market is structured very differently than the Euro parts market.

But, hey, it's another source for 3rd party parts, like Amazon or Rock.
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Show me a dealer price and an online price for the exact same thing that is 300-400% different.
I don't even care what make of car.
Sure. Let's use BMW struts as an example.
I've done the following comparison with at least 100 different parts over the last 10 years.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products?keywords=33521093646

This website sells both "Sachs" and "Genuine BMW" struts.
It is known that the OEM rear strut is supplied by Sachs.
When you buy the "Sachs" version, the BMW logo will be scratched off.

On the website, Genuine BMW rear strut is $236
The Sachs is $86.
I called my local BMW dealer and was quoted $276 over the phone.

There you go. 3 prices for the identical part.

So, yes, the online vendor is cheaper by $40 ($236 vs. $276)
Do you see where I am coming from?
The option for the $86 Sachs does not exist in the Japanese car market.

When that option is a thing,
$90 * 3 = $270 is where I get the triple from.
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Sure. Let's use BMW struts as an example.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products?keywords=33521093646

This website sells both "Sachs" and "Genuine BMW" struts.
It is known that the OEM rear strut is supplied by Sachs.
When you buy the "Sachs" version, the BMW logo will be scratched off.

On the website, Genuine BMW rear strut is $236
The Sachs is $86.
I called my local BMW dealer and was quoted $276 over the phone.

There you go. 3 prices for the identical part.

So, yes, the online vendor is cheaper by $40 ($236 vs. $276)
Do you see where I am coming from?
The option for the $86 Sachs does not exist in the Japanese car market.

When that option is a thing,
$90 * 3 = $270 is where I get the triple from.

I've done this comparison with at least 100 different parts over the last 10 years.
The option does exist you just don't want to believe it.
There is nothing saying that the actual BMW part and the Sachs are exactly the same with just a logo difference. How do you know they are identical?
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I think now we know why parts of his car are rusting away. His personality is so caustic that just sitting inside the car is causing corrosion.
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The option does exist you just don't want to believe it.
There is nothing saying that the actual BMW part and the Sachs are exactly the same with just a logo difference. How do you know they are identical?
Really that option exists?
Well, great, why didn't you say so???

Can you show me a vendor website selling Mitsubishi alternators,
and not "Subaru" alternators (that are $400, LMAO)

...and all the rest, as well...
Mitsubishi starter, drive belts, alternators.
Denso radiators crank sensors, and window motors.
Kinugawa/Teito radiator hoses.
Nisshinbo Brake Pads and Aisin Brake Discs

A website that sells the above is exactly what I am looking for.
(Not marked-up "Subaru" starters, belts, and alternators)

Thank you in advance.
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I concur and will now stop before brain damage truly sets in.
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I concur and will now stop before brain damage truly sets in.
Brain damage? You were just utterly schooled on a topic you didn't even know was a thing.
Instead of thanking me for educating you, you try to weasel out and insult me?

It's ok to admit that you were wrong, and have no idea what you're talking about.
If the direct OEM options existed, you'd post the website where to buy them.
Not comment on some idiotic troll's photo.

Case closed.

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It's ok to admit that you were wrong, and have no idea what you're talking about.
If the option existed, you'd post the website. Not comment on some idiotic troll's photo.
Many people have posted websites. You deny them.
I have wasted enough time with somebody that can not even do their own research.


You really do like to edit your posts after making statements don't you.


Where is the insult?


You are the one insulting everybody that attempted to answer you.
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For the last time, Subaru doesn't make alternators or brakes, or sensors....they slap their logo onto it (and mark up the price)
I don't want sites that sell "Subaru" alternators, I want parts labelled with the company who actually made the part. (Denso, Aisin, Mitsubishi, etc)
You claim there are websites that do this? Please POST ONE or admit you have no idea what you're talking about.

I have spelled this out in such detail that a 12 year old can understand it.
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