follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > 1st Gens: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ > Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum

Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum The place to start for the Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 | GT86

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-12-2017, 01:56 PM   #15
mrg666
pessimistic skeptic
 
mrg666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Drives: '14 FR-S Monogram AT JRSC
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,786
Thanks: 1,713
Thanked 1,054 Times in 694 Posts
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Start with a JRSC base kit, factory tune, and tires. Drive it for a couple months. Don't forget the oil cooler. Then, upgrade with HBP, injectors, and fuel pump, Delicious tune. If you read the JRSC thread, you will see that EL header is recommended not UEL. Without rebuilding the engine with stronger internals (connecting rods, pistons, valve springs ...), you cannot talk about reliability, 300+whp using HBP is just a stunt. I don't know your budget but, in case you have a limited budget as your choice of sports car implies, you need to prioritize the modifications. If you start like this you will be wasting your money and you will be up for an engine replacement soon. I would recommend starting from your center piece, which is JRSC, and slowly/gradually build up from there.
mrg666 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to mrg666 For This Useful Post:
olsonpg (08-17-2017), WolfpackS2k (08-16-2017)
Old 08-12-2017, 05:07 PM   #16
TylerLieberman
Senior Member
 
TylerLieberman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: '24 GR86
Location: Arizona
Posts: 3,686
Thanks: 658
Thanked 3,363 Times in 1,584 Posts
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyZC6 View Post
Well give me a list of mods that won't cost so much but will still achieve 300+ whp reliably
-Fast
-Cheap
-Reliable

Pick 2.

In all seriousness, the key to these cars is simplicity. If all you're concerned with is a number, then there are better options out there.

You'd be surprised how quick these cars can be with very minor modifications. A good set of tires paired with headers and ECU tuning is enough to give some high hp cars a serious hard time on track with the right driver.
TylerLieberman is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to TylerLieberman For This Useful Post:
Cole (08-12-2017)
Old 08-12-2017, 08:01 PM   #17
Esseff
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Drives: 2017 BRZ Ltd White
Location: Perth Australia
Posts: 64
Thanks: 4
Thanked 32 Times in 27 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
How does that song go?
... dreamer, your nothing but a dreamer...
Esseff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2017, 09:03 PM   #18
Cole
Not a troll
 
Cole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Drives: FR-S
Location: Canada
Posts: 5,104
Thanks: 8,237
Thanked 5,399 Times in 2,694 Posts
Mentioned: 266 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TylerLieberman View Post
-Fast
-Cheap
-Reliable

Pick 2.

In all seriousness, the key to these cars is simplicity. If all you're concerned with is a number, then there are better options out there.

You'd be surprised how quick these cars can be with very minor modifications. A good set of tires paired with headers and ECU tuning is enough to give some high hp cars a serious hard time on track with the right driver.[
So much of this.

I remember when I first bought my car and slammed it immediately. Got tired of crawling every time I went to drive the stupid thing. Sold the coils, got light wheels, sticky tires, header, tune and lowering springs and it's about as perfect as I could possibly want.
Cole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2017, 09:08 PM   #19
NOI
Member
 
NOI's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Drives: 2 Subarus and a 2013 FRS
Location: Michigan
Posts: 98
Thanks: 143
Thanked 75 Times in 36 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
$30k...no brakes.

Ok.
NOI is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to NOI For This Useful Post:
chaoskaze (08-13-2017), TylerLieberman (08-12-2017)
Old 08-13-2017, 02:22 AM   #20
MyZC6
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Drives: 17 BRZ
Location: Australia
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
So I have people saying stick with the JRSC and others saying go with a turbo what's your opinion, the car is gonna be my DD with occasional track and a lot of shows/meetups around my area

Looking more for fast and reliable and the reason I chose this car was because I love the look of it (even with the widebodys) and how versatile the platform is


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
MyZC6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2017, 03:16 AM   #21
muckypuppy
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Drives: MY13 SWP BRZ Cosworth 2.3
Location: Australia
Posts: 76
Thanks: 32
Thanked 43 Times in 32 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyZC6 View Post
So I have people saying stick with the JRSC and others saying go with a turbo what's your opinion, the car is gonna be my DD with occasional track and a lot of shows/meetups around my area

Looking more for fast and reliable and the reason I chose this car was because I love the look of it (even with the widebodys) and how versatile the platform is


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
How about considering kits that are available in the area that you live ?
muckypuppy is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to muckypuppy For This Useful Post:
why? (08-15-2017)
Old 08-13-2017, 05:35 AM   #22
MyZC6
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Drives: 17 BRZ
Location: Australia
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by muckypuppy View Post
How about considering kits that are available in the area that you live ?


Yeah there isn't much going here in Australia most our vendors get them from overseas


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
MyZC6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2017, 06:44 AM   #23
muckypuppy
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Drives: MY13 SWP BRZ Cosworth 2.3
Location: Australia
Posts: 76
Thanks: 32
Thanked 43 Times in 32 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyZC6 View Post
Yeah there isn't much going here in Australia most our vendors get them from overseas


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Harrop, Bullet(Sprintex), SME, Coyoda . All local mate.
muckypuppy is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to muckypuppy For This Useful Post:
why? (08-15-2017)
Old 08-13-2017, 08:36 AM   #24
WNDSRFR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Drives: FR-S,GTI
Location: Cocoa, Florida
Posts: 1,191
Thanks: 237
Thanked 872 Times in 443 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Did I miss something?
I didn't see anything on your list that's going to get you 300 HP. Just spend a lot of money.
WNDSRFR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2017, 02:34 PM   #25
humfrz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 30,432
Thanks: 29,826
Thanked 32,845 Times in 16,844 Posts
Mentioned: 715 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by WNDSRFR View Post
Did I miss something?
I didn't see anything on your list that's going to get you 300 HP. Just spend a lot of money.
....... pay attention, old man ........a JRSC and a tune should get him close to 300 HP .......


humfrz
humfrz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2017, 12:44 PM   #26
MyZC6
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Drives: 17 BRZ
Location: Australia
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
In your opinions are all the handling mods neeeded? I definitely want more power out of this car but do I need to dump money on other things as well?

And ignore the exterior stuff as that's purely personal preference


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
MyZC6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2017, 01:00 PM   #27
StraightOuttaCanadaEh
Wes
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Drives: Artisan Spirits '17 86
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,871
Thanks: 1,255
Thanked 1,734 Times in 1,025 Posts
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyZC6 View Post
In your opinions are all the handling mods neeeded? I definitely want more power out of this car but do I need to dump money on other things as well?

And ignore the exterior stuff as that's purely personal preference


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Tires improved grip and the coilovers reduced roll. I would suggest those two to get that "on rails" feel
StraightOuttaCanadaEh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2017, 03:10 PM   #28
re-animator
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: San Diego
Posts: 213
Thanks: 135
Thanked 83 Times in 45 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyZC6 View Post
In your opinions are all the handling mods neeeded? I definitely want more power out of this car but do I need to dump money on other things as well?

And ignore the exterior stuff as that's purely personal preference


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
i don't see the point of extensive handling mods on this car. handling is already very neutral. yes definitely bigger grippy tires (i have MPSS as well and love them) and maybe a small drop with springs or coilovers, but you definitely reach a point of diminishing returns. If you are a skilled enough driver that the suspension and bracing is a limiting factor on this car then you are likely a professional race car driver.


as far as power, either accept that you are driving a quick car that is not exactly fast, or go forced induction. smaller mods to the intake/exhaust/ecu systems can smooth out the feel and squeeze a little more power out of the powerband but they don't fundamentally alter the feel of the car. after intake/headers/exhaust/tune you still have a rev-happy somewhat underpowered car, just one with a smoother powerband. A decent turbo or SC setup with bolt-ons can get you easily in the 250whp range but higher than that you will need upgraded engine internals, higher rated clutch, and definitely a big brake system. You are going to wonder why you didn't just buy a used Porsche 997 or Cayman. assuming you are old enough to drive.
re-animator is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to re-animator For This Useful Post:
Tcoat (08-16-2017)
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Custom Grill Duct Backyard Build, Opinions? Doobster Cosmetic Modification (Interior/Exterior/Lighting) 22 08-04-2017 05:20 AM
My 2015 Subaru brz N/A build bilsteinmotorsport K Member's Car Journals 6 06-10-2015 09:31 PM
Jay's 86 Build: Opinions Wanted! jay_jay_lp Member's Car Journals 0 01-11-2015 05:02 AM
Asphalt build pics... Thoughts and opinions? Erik-Frs FR-S & 86 Photos, Videos, Wallpapers, Gallery Forum 21 12-30-2013 10:45 AM
FR-S Wishlist build!! Opinions welcome!! Spencer Strayer Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 4 01-22-2013 06:23 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:21 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.