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Old 07-10-2017, 01:31 PM   #15
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Mr. Know it all! You and your "10mm socket" JK

FIRST ....... pull the hood latch, then open the hood ....... it makes that bolt easier to get to .......


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After a good cleaning so I could see what was going on it wasn't the dipstick tube that's why I asked for a picture. It's to the left of that and further underneath so the only way to see what's up is to pull the exhaust and I'd rather not go through that if I don't have to.

C'mon guys I've been around the block a few times, been driving and working on my own cars for nearly 35 years. I might ask some dumb questions but utilizing the hive mind is one of the things the interwebs is good for.
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After a good cleaning so I could see what was going on it wasn't the dipstick tube that's why I asked for a picture. It's to the left of that and further underneath so the only way to see what's up is to pull the exhaust and I'd rather not go through that if I don't have to.

C'mon guys I've been around the block a few times, been driving and working on my own cars for nearly 35 years. I might ask some dumb questions but utilizing the hive mind is one of the things the interwebs is good for.
Oh, gravitylover ...... we were jest ah messen wich you .......

I've been driving and working on my own cars for almost twice that many years ...... so, welcome to wrenching, there, young man .......

Back-in-the-day, I would have guessed your oil leak was a front main bearing seal .......

Oh, we aren't back in the day ......

Hell, I'm not sure what's leaking but, as you requested, this is the best I can come up with a picture ......

(I would guess that the lower part of the timing chain cover is leaking).


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(I would guess that the lower part of the timing chain cover is leaking).
Pray it's not this. Long story short I had a damaged timing cover that leaked. It was an 18hr job doing it myself, pulling the old cover off and putting the new cover on. I shudder to think what Toyota would have charged me to do the same job.
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Oh, gravitylover ...... we were jest ah messen wich you .......

I've been driving and working on my own cars for almost twice that many years ...... so, welcome to wrenching, there, young man .......

Back-in-the-day, I would have guessed your oil leak was a front main bearing seal .......

Oh, we aren't back in the day ......

Hell, I'm not sure what's leaking but, as you requested, this is the best I can come up with a picture ......

(I would guess that the lower part of the timing chain cover is leaking).

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Young man? Thanks!!

After going through a bunch of pics I think your lower timing chain cover assessment is correct

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Pray it's not this. Long story short I had a damaged timing cover that leaked. It was an 18hr job doing it myself, pulling the old cover off and putting the new cover on. I shudder to think what Toyota would have charged me to do the same job.
I'm well over the regular 60k warranty period but hoping that the 7/100 that I got because I bought the car CPO covers things like this. I'm going to contact the dealer today and see what happens.

Thanks for the help guys
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After going through a bunch of pics I think your lower timing chain cover assessment is correct


Well, gravitylover, since you have the ability and no doubt the tools, what I would suggest is that you torque all of those bolts down that hold the timing chain cover on. I'd start from the bottom and work up.

Maybe you will get lucky and stop the leak .....

Back in the day, I used to tighten all the oil pan bolts in hopes of stopping a leak like that ...... rather than biting the bullet and replacing the main seal(s).

That strategy usually didn't work and I would wind up twisting off at least two oil pan bolts ..... ...... because I didn't have a torque wrench.

All you need is a 3/8" drive socket wrench, the appropriate size socket, at least 14 universal joints hooked together ....... along with a lighted flexible inspection scope.........


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Well, gravitylover, since you have the ability and no doubt the tools, what I would suggest is that you torque all of those bolts down that hold the timing chain cover on. I'd start from the bottom and work up.

Maybe you will get lucky and stop the leak .....

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If you do decide to tighten things up yourself, these may help.

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Am I missing something ....??

Which numbers go with which letters (torque values) ..... ??


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Which numbers go with which letters (torque values) ..... ??


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A and B are solid black/white. You can see the C and D patterns in the second pic.
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The manual goes off the bolt length to determine which is which. It would have been more straight forward to say the 10mm hex are 10NM and the 12mm hex bolts are 25NM though. Bolts 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 are all 10mm the rest are 12mm.
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I stumbled on the top one this morning and that's what convinced me to call the dealer and get an appt to bring it in. Turns out the 7/100 CPO warranty covers engine issues up to that 100k so since it's covered, and a known issue, I'll let them take the risk of screwing something up

One final question. I need to take a ~400 mile trip tomorrow for work, as long as I keep an eye on the oil level I shouldn't really be risking anything too serious right? I mean it's not like oil is pouring out, it's just a drip but because it drips on the exhaust it smokes when the car is sitting still and the oil is burning off. I'll take a few rags with me to wipe the dripped stuff when I stop.
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