Supra Inspired FRS- Tail light conversion

[VAcuban]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Tell that to OP when he solicited opinions on his idea of a "Supra but not really a Supra and not really paying for a Supra" conversion idea.

Yep, I asked for suggestions and opinions and I'm loving the input. I am however curious how you got "Supra but not really a Supra and not really paying for a Supra" from just thinking about a tail light conversion?

Besides, all the concerns raised about the complications stemming from the tail light conversion have swayed me from pursuing that idea. So there's that.

You're reading too much into this. Chill out.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by VAcuban

lol I don't think some of you guys understand the concept of a PROJECT CAR. Shit's not gonna happen overnight. It's going to be a gradual progression over time. Some of you are already nit picking and demanding to know what I'm gonna do about suspension. lol, seriously?

and speaking of nit picking..


I guess you skimmed over the part where I mentioned I can get a low mileage 2JZ-GTE w/ a 6 speed Getrag Tranmission for $10-13k, shipped..

As far as axles and suspension, when I reach that bridge, I'll cross it. But from what I can tell, everything is good up till you hit 475 lbs. of torque.

My short term goal is only to just get the 325 hp (crank) engine swapped into the FRS. And the 500 just covers anything little items that inherently comes with an engine swap like hoses, belts, fluids, spark plugs, etc, ie.. miscellaneous items.

As for those Supras going for dirt cheap.. here's some advice. Anything that seems to good to be true, probably is. If you see a Supra going for those prices, you have to ask yourself.. why? Why are they selling them for dirt cheap? Surely it's not out of the goodness of their hearts... Another tip, don't ever buy a 20+ year old car with those sort of mods, or any year really, with mods like that. Chances are the owner beat the hell out of the car and he's probably selling it because he knows it won't last much longer before it starts having more serious problems. Besides, I want a PROJECT CAR, not trying to buy someone else's project..



haha.. I mean, the smallest weapon I worked with was a 9mm Baretta, but no, my main squeeze were tomahawks and ADCAP torpedoes, specifically on nuclear fast attack Submarines. I was responsible for ensuring all the auxiliary systems were functioning properply (high and low pressure: air, water, hydraulics, reducers, etc.) in order to launch those 19 foot long tubes of freedom. Honestly, the job itself was cake, but the training, schools, and qualifications leading up to it were intense. While it sounds interesting, I don't recommend it. It doesn't qualify you for that many jobs when you get out..



Dude. I'm just trying to get a 2JZ in the platform I like. I'm not out there trying to win competitions or break records or build an insane amount of hp. Though I would love to own a Supra, it's just outside my budget. The frs 2jz swap is cheaper, lighter, and newer.

"I've dealt with probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 300-500 different types of cars set up this way."

But I take it you've never driven a Supra before. The powerband comes on violently, but only at higher RPMS. A 600 hp Supra is very streetable because of the inherent characteristics of its power plant, but I'm not even shooting for something that high. 450 would be my max and that's down the road...

Not nitpicking nor demanding anything just wondering if you have considered everything in you $35K build. Apparently not.

So you think you are just going to drop the engine in, hook up a harness and drive away?
Good luck with that .


So all of them are "too good to be true"? If you want a Supra it would still be cheaper in the long run to actually buy a Supra and fix it up. You would also end up with a car that is actually worth something.

And a final note (see bold), you are not talking about building a Supra you are talking about putting an engine in a FRS. It is more than the "inherent characteristics of it's power plant" that make the Supra drivable at higher horsepower.

[VAcuban]

Originally Posted by Mule

Holy shit man why are so many ppl being ****s?? If you don't like the OP's creative vision there's zero need to shit all over him.

Real 'car guys' get along no matter what one's taste is - we're like 0.0003% of the population and have a strong 💪 common denominator; a love and passion for cars.

Unless you want to encourage the guy or give creative input of your own I don't know you would go out of your way to snipe and be negative.

We should be trying to spread the gear head love, not slag a brother just cause you don't agree with his taste.

Jesus, so much hate in this forum...


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hahaha riight? They're nitpicking like we're going on a NASA mission to Mars while in reality, the only thing they've installed themselves are their Valentis and cold air intakes.

[VAcuban]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

So you think you are just going to drop the engine in, hook up a harness and drive away?
Good luck with that .

Yep. I'm just going to snap my fingers and I'll drive off in the sunset. Cuz apparently I shit rainbows now.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

So all of them are "too good to be true"? If you want a Supra it would still be cheaper in the long run to actually buy a Supra and fix it up. You would also end up with a car that is actually worth something.

Your train of thought is forcing me to question how old you are. Did you just graduate high school? You talk like someone who's young with very little experience..

Originally Posted by Tcoat

And a final note (see bold), you are not talking about building a Supra you are talking about putting an engine in a FRS. It is more than the "inherent characteristics of it's power plant" that make the Supra drivable at higher horsepower.

[VAcuban]

Thank you everyone for your input. The many impractical issues raised concerning the complexities of the tail light conversion have swayed me from pursuing it.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by VAcuban

Yep. I'm just going to snap my fingers and I'll drive off in the sunset. Cuz apparently I shit rainbows now.



Your train of thought is forcing me to question how old you are. Did you just graduate high school? You talk like someone who's young with very little experience..

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Go read the swap threads and see how easy it is. If you figure you are going to swap for the price of the engine and a $500 slush fund you better be able to shit rainbows because you will need all the rainbow power you can get.
Nothing wrong with having a dream but you have not done enough research yet to have a solid idea of what is involved.
My youngest child is older than you and my oldest grandson is half your age.
Not sure who is the one with little experience here.

[Mule]

Originally Posted by VAcuban

Yep. I'm just going to snap my fingers and I'll drive off in the sunset. Cuz apparently I shit rainbows now.



Your train of thought is forcing me to question how old you are. Did you just graduate high school? You talk like someone who's young with very little experience..

Tcoat probably works in like a Staples warehouse or something. There's no way he holds a legit job with his attitude.

Having said that, I wouldn't put unemployed passed him based on the frequency of his massively insightful and positive posts.



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[Poodles]

I've kept quiet and observed as my first car passion was Supras (for those that know me), but this right here:

Originally Posted by VAcuban

As for those Supras going for dirt cheap.. here's some advice. Anything that seems to good to be true, probably is. If you see a Supra going for those prices, you have to ask yourself.. why? Why are they selling them for dirt cheap? Surely it's not out of the goodness of their hearts... Another tip, don't ever buy a 20+ year old car with those sort of mods, or any year really, with mods like that. Chances are the owner beat the hell out of the car and he's probably selling it because he knows it won't last much longer before it starts having more serious problems. Besides, I want a PROJECT CAR, not trying to buy someone else's project..

What do you think you're getting when you buy a used engine? You're getting garbage that sat out somewhere exposed to the elements with no record of what happened to it while it was in it's donor car. At best you have a rusty 20 year old engine, at worst you have a boat anchor. Hell, the V160 goes for $5k alone.

You're likely looking at a full rebuild of the engine and turbos, significantly raising the cost of the build.

Not to mention the weight difference here. The 2J setup is 100lbs heavier and will sit farther forward, and that's JUST the engine/trans and not the intercooler and piping. You'd be better off boosting the FA20 weight wise if your goal is so low for the motor.

Of course you could also just get an IS300, SC300, or GS300 for super cheap and in the case of the SC300, have the entire suspension setup of a Supra as well.

Your money, but I've seen enough dead engine swaps in my days (especially when it comes to Supras) to want to see another one.

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[Cole]

Originally Posted by Mule

Don't listen to Tcoat et al. They're ****s and don't deserve to have a voice on this forum.

Be unique and good luck with your build. 👍


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You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Take your "respect all builds" mentality elsewhere. All it does is propegate mediocrity and idiocy.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Mule

Holy shit man why are so many ppl being ****s?? If you don't like the OP's creative vision there's zero need to shit all over him.

Real 'car guys' get along no matter what one's taste is - we're like 0.0003% of the population and have a strong �� common denominator; a love and passion for cars.

Unless you want to encourage the guy or give creative input of your own I don't know you would go out of your way to snipe and be negative.

We should be trying to spread the gear head love, not slag a brother just cause you don't agree with his taste.

Jesus, so much hate in this forum...


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Car guys have never always agreed. Never. If you think everybody will just smile and agree with peoples ideas then you live in a very special place.
Nobody was "slagging" anybody but simply pointing out some issues. If he wants to lash out at them and not hear what is being said that is his problem.

Originally Posted by Mule

Don't listen to Tcoat et al. They're ****s and don't deserve to have a voice on this forum.

Be unique and good luck with your build. ��


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Be a great place if the teenagers such as yourself are all just supporting each other's pipe dreams. I bet a lot of constructive projects would get completed. Everybody has a voice.

Originally Posted by VAcuban

hahaha riight? They're nitpicking like we're going on a NASA mission to Mars while in reality, the only thing they've installed themselves are their Valentis and cold air intakes.

In for pics of the progress of the project. You have no bloody clue as to the experience or cars of the people replying here. None.

Originally Posted by Mule

Tcoat probably works in like a Staples warehouse or something. There's no way he holds a legit job with his attitude.

Having said that, I wouldn't put unemployed passed him based on the frequency of his massively insightful and positive posts.



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If you got over your anger and hatred because I stated I didn't line inline 4 engines you may see exactly how helpful I am.
As far as employment goes you are basing your incredibly wrong statement on zero evidence and are so radically wrong you couldn't get worse.

This is one of the nicest forums I have ever been on and if you would look beyond your own interests you would see that. Just because we don't always hold hands and sing kumbaya doesn't mean we mostly don't get along.

[ichitaka05]

LMFAO Why no one have mention is thread... I had to find out myself. I rarely eat popcorn, but this thread needs it.

Quote like

Did you just graduate high school? You talk like someone who's young with very little experience..

or

Tcoat probably works in like a Staples warehouse or something. There's no way he holds a legit job with his attitude.

Oh man! I had to bust out laughing!!! My side hurts...

FYI, Tcoat is older than most of us by age, make a tons more money than both of em combined, and have knowledge in automotive than most of us here... at least he research and before he post.

My 2 yen is, do whatever you want. If you think you can do it, sure go for it. Take lover's or hater's comment as a grain of salt. It's YOUR money... BUT please do report back proving the haters that, they're wrong & they're stupid... or proving the haters that, they're right & you're stupid. Online forum is all about proof.

...but in the end, all I wanna say is STOP MAKING DUPLICATE THREAD! FIND YOUR DAMN ORIGINAL THREAD & KEEP IT THERE! Pointless to make multiple threads & keep merging em.

[Mule]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

LMFAO Why no one have mention is thread... I had to find out myself. I rarely eat popcorn, but this thread needs it.

Quote like



or



Oh man! I had to bust out laughing!!! My side hurts...

FYI, Tcoat is older than most of us by age, make a tons more money than both of em combined, and have knowledge in automotive than most of us here... at least he research and before he post.

My 2 yen is, do whatever you want. If you think you can do it, sure go for it. Take lover's or hater's comment as a grain of salt. It's YOUR money... BUT please do report back proving the haters that, they're wrong & they're stupid... or proving the haters that, they're right & you're stupid. Online forum is all about proof.

...but in the end, all I wanna say is STOP MAKING DUPLICATE THREAD! FIND YOUR DAMN ORIGINAL THREAD & KEEP IT THERE! Pointless to make multiple threads & keep merging em.

Listen man, it doesn't matter how old he is or how much money he has, he's obsessed with being negative and shitting all over whoever his desired target is.

If he's so knowledgable and practical why doesn't he just share knowledge instead of 'that won't work, idiot'.

Anyways, I offered him an invitation to meet up and hash this out like adults - time will tell if the hallowed sage will take me up on it.


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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Mule

Listen man, it doesn't matter how old he is or how much money he has, he's obsessed with being negative and shitting all over whoever his desired target is.

If he's so knowledgable and practical why doesn't he just share knowledge instead of 'that won't work, idiot'.

Anyways, I offered him an invitation to meet up and hash this out like adults - time will tell if the hallowed sage will take me up on it.


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I never once said it wouldn't work nor called him an idiot. I said he could not do it all on the budget he set. He can't and he will find that out. If he ever even starts the project at all.

Disregard what I said in the PM.
You couldn't wait for a response and said this crap?
It is on!