does FR-S have same liability as BRZ?

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by zizon93

I apologize for making you guys all confused.......

....... it's not nice to confuse us old people.




humfrz

[Impureclient]

You know I was going to make some smart mouth comment about how there are kids on your grass humfrz. Then thinking about it, I realized I don't want those kids on my grass now either!

[Scrappydoo]

Originally Posted by zizon93

Title pretty much says all.

Gobbledegook says it all?

It does

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Impureclient

You know I was going to make some smart mouth comment about how there are kids on your grass humfrz. Then thinking about it, I realized I don't want those kids on my grass now either!

Now, that brings to mind a back-in-the-day story.

It was springtime in the late 1960s, in San Jose, CA and we had just bought our first house. Yep, brand new, $23,000, $1.00 down on the GI bill.

It was a corner lot and I had spent countless hours mixing in spent mushroom manure into the adobe clay. Seeded it and had a beautiful lawn established.

Well, "they" finished out the rest of this new subdivision (starting across the street) with FHA 235 low income housing. I tried to understand that everyone deserves affordable housing. However, after my pickup truck (parked in the driveway) was broken into three times, I was losing my patience.

The situation that tore it was one day I came home from work, a bunch of kids were playing in the street, blocking the entrance to the driveway. I told them to get the hell out of the street and go play in their backyards. One of them told me to go ahead and run over him ......his parents would sue me.

To push me over the edge, another day when I came home from work, they were using my front yard as third base for their ball game. I tossed the trash can lid (their base) at them and told them to ....... here it comes ....... "to keep off my lawn"!

One of the SA older ones said that he was going to get his dad. I said, fine, I'll meet him out here in the street in 2 minutes. I went into my house and secured my hunting knife and tucked in my belt on my backside.

Well, the dad came out (fat, Spanish speaking dude with small arms), saw me and decided to just to take his SA son inside ...... and never came back out.

I sold that house about a month later and moved across town.


THE END


humfrz

[Dadhawk]

Sarcasm is heavy with this thread....

Originally Posted by why?

The 2013 FRS is highly unstable, which is wonderful if you love drifting and know what you are doing, but horrible if you've only ever driven front wheel drive cars and are dumb enough to turn off the traction car which is why they are the ones people crashed so much..

Can't tell if you are just piling on or serious....

Little bit of an exaggeration don't you think? I must have missed in my 105,000 miles of driving a 2013 FRS that it is highly unstable. Yes, it has more of a tendency to oversteer than understeer, but I wouldn't exactly call it highly unstable.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by why?

The 2013 FRS is highly unstable, which is wonderful if you love drifting and know what you are doing, but horrible if you've only ever driven front wheel drive cars and are dumb enough to turn off the traction car which is why they are the ones people crashed so much.

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Little bit of an exaggeration don't you think? I must have missed in my 105,000 miles of driving a 2013 FRS that it is highly unstable.

It's not even remotely unstable. It's the mindset that if you screw up, someone or something else must be to blame. It's like if you rode your bicycle with training wheels for twenty years and fell over the first time you tried to ride without them, it's obviously the bike's fault.

Stupid bike. So unstable.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

It's not even remotely unstable. It's the mindset that if you screw up, someone or something else must be to blame. It's like if you rode your bicycle with training wheels for twenty years and fell over the first time you tried to ride without them, it's obviously the bike's fault.

Stupid bike. So unstable.

Oh it is horrible. The engineers screwed up the FRS and the BRZ team had to tell the marketing guys to get lost so they could build it properly in 2017. Also totally undriveable in the snow. Just ask anybody that knows especially race car drivers. If you think it is OK in the snow then that just means you are inexperienced and don't know how to drive properly.
Or so I have been told.

[KR-S]

Originally Posted by Cole

No, the BRZ is AWD and has a big turbo. The FRS has no turbo and is FWD

BRZ also comes with a complimentary vape pen. As an FR-S peasant, I am extremely jealous.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Sarcasm is heavy with this thread....



Can't tell if you are just piling on or serious....

Little bit of an exaggeration don't you think? I must have missed in my 105,000 miles of driving a 2013 FRS that it is highly unstable. Yes, it has more of a tendency to oversteer than understeer, but I wouldn't exactly call it highly unstable.

Yes, I'm overstating things a bit. I really wish they could "refine" the car and yet keep whatever made the 13 FRS what it is. I can slide my BRZ around, but it is not easy. I view the 13 as the best handling 86.

[PNW FRS]

The biggest "liability" with a FR-S -- or -- a BRZ is often sitting behind the steering wheel!